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donia
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 Posted - 10/17/2005 : 13:55:44
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hi I do not know what to do i stopped taking the drug which was paxil 3 months ago after taking it for 3 years and the pain in the neck shoulder and the arm affecting the depression more .
i think to take the drug again because i live with my kids and my husband but we r away from our country .
what do u think does the depression is related to the TMS? but how i can deal with all of these problems ,it is too much to handle without medication, every doctor i saw asked me to take the anti depression again ,i hate it ,i was not depressed before,i took because they told me it will help me with the pain and it helped but i do not like to take it anymore . they made me to be a typical patient who have every illness so i will not be able to be me again. |
Edited by - donia on 10/18/2005 22:59:41 |
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Stryder
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Posted - 10/17/2005 : 14:26:12
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Originally posted by Stryder
Hi donia,
Unless you are going to start following the advice that Dr. Sarno has laid out in his books, then you likely need to see a TMS doctor in person to get you started on your way to recovery.
...snip...
So try to take a deep breath and get yourself to a TMS doctor as soon as you can.
Take care, -Stryder
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ladyblue
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/17/2005 : 15:20:30
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Hi Donia,
I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling so low. I'm a single mum and I know how frightening it can be when you're having personal difficulties as well as being responsible for your children.
I agree with Stryder, if you can see a TMS therapist that would be a very valuable experience and hopefully set you on the course to a full recovery.
In the meantime do you have any family or friends that could give you some emotional support? Also perhaps to help with the children?
Seek whatever help you need Donia, listen to your intuition and it will guide you in the right direction.
Wishing you all the best Donia....Jane |
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donia
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Posted - 10/17/2005 : 20:41:14
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hi thanks for your support and advice i need to go to see the tms doctor but i live in IL there is no any tms doctors i heard about and i can not travel too ,also i have some friends but i do not ask them for help because i did not do that before in my entire life also they r the same like me immigrated from egypt and they live with their childern and husbands they have no family or relative so thier help will be very limited and also usless.
any way i think taking anti depression again will be the only option and i will visit the Psychiatry tomorrow as all the people told me i think i will not be able to do sarno alone it is not for me i am very weak person. thanks for all of u |
Edited by - donia on 10/18/2005 00:08:23 |
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altherunner
Canada
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Posted - 10/17/2005 : 22:40:08
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Hi Donia! I sometimes take St. John's Wort, an herb when I feel down.
Have you tried it ? It makes me sleepy, but it does improve mood also. Please don't let the pain get you too down, it will go away again. Donia - for you to immigrate to another country, you must not be a weak person at all. You just don't know your own strength, maybe you are really Popeye, you just ran out of spinach! |
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donia
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Posted - 10/18/2005 : 00:14:16
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thanks altherunner i did take St. John's Wort but i have sever depression which make me cry all the day long and affected the way i think and i live .
u remind me i want to eat spinach i miss it thanks for your help.
i hope we all will be better than we think soon . |
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n/a
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Posted - 10/18/2005 : 06:38:40
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Donia
Sadly, taking all these drugs and physical therapies will not help you. They hold out a high promise which they are not able to keep. These doctors just want to keep your drugged instead of dealing with the real issues inside of you. I understand the difficult situation you are in being away form your home country, from your husband and minimal social support, but these treatments will not solve your problem and will not help you to bring about a full recovery.
You must look deep within yourself through meditation and journaling and think about what may be the inner source of your pain. Usually it is rage- which is accumualted anger over a long period of time. You may not, however, consciously feel it. In your case you may be angry that you are away from home, feel trapped with no way out, feel abandoned that your husband is not with you, feel that you are asked to take on more than you can handle. Think and write about these things in your journal. You can take all the pills in the world Donia, but unless your start facing these issues head one your pain and depression will remain.
I do wish for you a full recovery...........fee amani la |
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wrldtrv
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Posted - 10/18/2005 : 20:16:42
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| I think it's fine to meditate, do Sarnos exercises and all the rest, but sometimes an antidepressant works quicker and better if what you want to do is relieve the misery. I'm speaking from personal experience. And I know others for whom the med was the only thing that seemed to work. I think it has to do with how much of the problem is chemical vs problems in living. Sometimes one needs the med just to feel good enough to do the exercises and the other valuable things. I don't believe in a black and white way of looking at this issue; it's much too complicated. |
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altherunner
Canada
511 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2005 : 22:08:45
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My wife had depression, related to early menopause, and it went away when she went on bio-identical hormone replacement. We read several books about it, by Dr. John Lee, and Suzanne Sommers books, and we
talked to a compounding pharmacist. Te hormones are in a cream form, applied to the skin. She was better overnight. I don't know if this is applicable to you, I just thought I should mention it. |
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/19/2005 : 06:43:59
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Hi donia,
I’m sorry to hear how depressed you are. It’s very difficult to make changes when your time is taken up with caring for children because they always come first.
I am abroad due to my husband’s job and it is very difficult to stay positive when your normal friends, family, hobbies, interests etc are not there. This is made worse if you do not have the self confidence to go out and meet new people which is something that is not easy to change. But I dare not complain as everyone at home thinks I am so lucky to have the opportunity to travel!
Here are some suggestions which might help
Journalling. Write down what you are feeling and why – if I look back on my notes of 6 months ago big problems then seem much simpler now. I was worried that my husband might read what I wrote but he doesn’t mind what I do if it makes me more positive.
Speak to your friends but maybe not how bad you really feel – just that you feel you need to get out and about more as you miss your home country. I am sure many of them are the same as you.
Are there more opportunities where you live now that you are not taking advantage of. Could you go to college or train in a new career when your children are older. Having something to look forward to helps to lift your mood even if it is a long way off.
Could you go to English classes now where you might meet other people who are new to the country. Ask your Egyptian friends to go with you. Your English is very good but it would be a good way of meeting people.
Try to find something positive about life now – are there more opportunities for your children? Will they have a more secure future? Oh, and taking exercise (mostly long walks for me) definitely helps though you will have to fit it round the children .
I read Dr Sarno in February (for insonmia not realising I was also depressed)and feel I am slowly improving all the time. I did not take anti depressants although I considered it. I was worried I would feel more of a failure if I took medication than if I didn't. Nor did I see a Sarno specialist though I wouldn’t rule any of this out if I felt it would help.
Hope some of this helps.
The fact that you wrote to the messageboard shows you know something needs to change so that was a very positive move to start with.
anne
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
330 Posts |
Posted - 10/19/2005 : 15:12:49
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Yes, thanks Peter.
I am half way through the book for the second time thanks to yours or someone else's posting here.
I first read it nearly a year ago but was convinced my insomnia was a physiological problem (hormones or something) so it didn't help. In fact it's an excellent book - the most important part is the advice on developing positive thinking which is making a big difference. I just wish it was easier to learn how to do it as I'm sure it would cure many TMS problems!
anne
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altherunner
Canada
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Posted - 10/19/2005 : 20:29:15
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Donia - i know it is not easy to exercise when you have small children, but that is the one thing that always makes me feel better.
Even just getting out for a walk, or going to a recreation center.
I have had some low days turn around this way. |
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donia
25 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2005 : 00:06:06
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I want to thank u all for your help and support but i think i am facing a big enemy alone and there is no way i am giving up except for god help he can and will help me .iam very very weak person i born like that it is me i tried tried but the tears is running from my eyes as i am washing my self ,i know it is not good but it is out of my hand i will conveince myself to take the anti depression again as the doctor said it is chronic depression !
i am sorry for all of u to post with u here i know u need the positive people and i am not the right person to add to u any new .
i will not be able to change while i am very weak and depressed like that may be u can imagine how i feel but believe me it is much much more than what u think.
thanks for all of u and i hope u will be in good health as u wish. |
Edited by - donia on 10/20/2005 00:07:55 |
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