| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
goodguy
26 Posts |
 Posted - 07/28/2004 : 08:52:24
|
Did any of you attend last night's meeting? What did you think?
Maybe I am making something out of nothing, but I feel like the "cured" members of the panel all had similar types of pain symptoms (sciatica, etc.), and even when they were still having pain, it would come and go, and they could get relief from either sitting down or lying down.
My pain is more of the "fibromyalgia" type. It is always present and always intense, no matter what position I am in or what activity I am doing. I could never confuse it with being structural since it is spread over such a wide area and all my tests were completely normal.
Do you think that the more severe the TMS, the longer it may take to get relief, despite hard work, psychotherapy, etc? |
|
|
tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 10:19:11
|
Dear Goodguy,
I assume that you attended Sarno's panel in person, am I correct?
I'm on the Left Coast so unfortunately I am not fortunate enough to take advantage of that. I did attend a number of group sessions in
Santa Cruz, CA. conducted by a Sarno trained MD. I would characterize those sessions as meditation and group therapy. The group would sit in a circle and one by one tell our stories. I stopped going after I felt sufficiently "cured" and it was about 100 miles away. Some of the people were in wheel chairs. I felt I had contributed to the group and given what I could and got what I needed. The long drive became prohibitive. I also did a one on one session with a "TMS" psychotherapist referred by the MD who led the group. I have Sarno's video and I think the group sessions I attended have more of a California new age slant. If you're seeing Sarno in person, I feel you are quite fortunate.
Is the new book mentioned, that the Good Doctor has written geared, towards his fellow white coats, available to us civilians? If so I would love to buy one. It's amazing, the divide between the doctor "experts" and the civilain patients. It's as if we are different species. I feel it is a measure of white coat insecurity. It shows their need to keep the upperhand and hide the fact
that they don't know it all by using an inscrutable arcane jargon. I'm not talking about Sarno here, but the ohters.
Is Sarno aware of the existence of this board, and if so what does he think about it? Does he recommend it to his patients? Can anyone attending his group panels ask him to make a guest appearance on the board to help those of us unfortunate not to be able to see him in person. I figure he is somewhat of a Luddite by necessity. I know he does correspond by mail because he was kind enough to answer some questions I had several years ago. Since knowledge is the cure, I think he could help millions around the planet by expanding his group sessions to cyberspace. Do you think Sarno understands the impact of the net? He could clarify people's TMS misconceptions so Dave and Gary don't have to all of the time. I'm a newbie to computers and the net and don't know how money can be made on it but I would gladly pay to subscribe to Sarno led internet group TMS sessions. Could anyone seeing him please ask what he thinks about the idea? |
 |
|
|
n/a
32 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 10:26:27
|
Goodguy,
One of the most inspiring stories I've heard about recovering from all-over pain is found at the rapidrecovery website message board which is another TMS message board. It's a message from a young woman in New Zealand about her recovery. I read it often to help encourage me. You have to dig a little to find it. It's from "ailsakaikoura" dated on Fri Jun 4, 2004 10:58 pm under the subject heading "Back to life after pain and living carefully". Go to www.rapidrecovery.net and click on the Reader's Forum. Then go to the month of June and look for it. (I think you have to log onto Yahoo to do this but it's free).
Hope this is helpful.
|
|
|
|
Norton
7 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 20:28:11
|
I live here in NY and would love to know more about these meetings.
Do I need to know the secret handshake? |
|
|
|
goodguy
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 11:18:14
|
Norton: I think you have to be a patient of his to get invited to the meetings.
LJJ: Thanks.
Tom: Say hello to the "left coast" for me. Although I have lived in New York for most of my life, I went to college in Berkeley.
Although I speak with him on occasion, I wouldn't really feel comfortable asking him to be a "guest speaker" on the website. Sorry. Maybe you should write him a letter. At the group meetings I have never heard anyone mention this website.
As for the meetings, to be completely honest, sometimes I feel they are helpful, and other times not so helpful. Like any group setting, you always get one or two people who try to dominate and don't let anyone else get a word in.
Also, at the risk of sounding like an intellectual snob and a jerk, some people ask questions that make me wonder if they have even read any of his books. Then, he has to spend valuable time in the meeting explaining the basics that have been clearly covered in the books, and in the 2 hour lecture that everyone has to attend before coming to these meetings.
I have often thought that it might be a good idea to start a "mentor" or "sponsor" program like those used in 12 step programs. I know there are times when I am frustrated and discouraged, and it would be nice to have someone to call for support and encouragement when things are really bad. I guess I thought that was the purpose for this website, but Gary was quick to point out to me that the purpose was to debate Sarno's theories, not support and encouragement (surprising then that he chose to include "help" in the title).
|
|
|
|
goodguy
26 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 11:21:18
|
| Tom: I forgot to answer your question about the book. He doesn't say much about the new book, or when it will be out. However, I think all books are available to anyone. I don't think you have to be a doctor to buy a medical text book. Check Amazon, and I'm sure that you will find it once it is out. |
|
|
|
kenny V
USA
268 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 12:20:00
|
quote:
have often thought that it might be a good idea to start a "mentor" or "sponsor" program like those used in 12 step programs. I know there are times when I am frustrated and discouraged, and it would be nice to have someone to call for support and encouragement when things are really bad.
Goodguy, Good stuff  this is what it is all about 
quote:
I guess I thought that was the purpose for this website, but Gary was quick to point out to me that the purpose was to debate Sarno's theories,  not support and encouragement (surprising then that he chose to include "help" in the title.( funny) 
Always Hope For Recovery
|
|
|
|
Suzanne
USA
66 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 14:58:29
|
Goodguy,
What time do the group sessions start? And are they held at the Rusk Institute?
I'm a Sarno patient, so I'm able to attend, but I forgot the info since it's been a long time since I was there. Thanks :)
I, too, wonder if the more severe the TMS, the longer it'll take. But I've read of cases where people who seemed quite worse off became pain-free within months, so that conflicts with the idea. Take Fred Amir for example. |
|
|
|
Dave
USA
1864 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 15:34:30
|
quote:
Originally posted by goodguy
I guess I thought that [support] was the purpose for this website, but Gary was quick to point out to me that the purpose was to debate Sarno's theories, not support and encouragement...
This website does not have a narrow scope. There is no specific purpose. It is an open forum to discuss TMS-related topics, period. |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
|
|
Last night's Sarno Panel Discussion
