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res
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 Posted - 07/21/2005 : 08:59:09
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I have successfully beaten so many TMS problems: low back, ankle, neck, bladder. So anyway, I was in a very minor car accident a few weeks ago and I was sore afterwards. So, falling into old patterns I went to a chiro (stupid me) to get xrays to make sure nothing was wrong and to maybe get a little muscle work. Anyway, while I was there, he adjusted my elbow and now my elbow is hurting when it wasn't before. I am sooo frustrated. My neck is now fine (I know it was TMS anyway). But, of course, I am now fighting the elbow pain. I won't go back to a chiro ever again that is for sure. I also think that the weakness in even going to one and in the current flare up is all the stress I am under right now. You know the type: marriage, kids (one just diagnosed with scoliosis that needs treatment), work. Anyway, I was hoping to get a little advice or "I've been there befores" or just encouragement. I could sure use it right now.
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 09:40:41
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Hi Res,
Do you believe that your daughter's scoliosis is real or TMS? To my recollection Sarno says scoliosis is TMS. If you are near a TMS doctor have your daughter dx'ed by one before starting physical treatments. |
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res
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 10:32:13
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Tom
My daughter is seven. She has no pain. Sarno says that scoliosis does not cause pain. Scoliosis is a side to side curve of the spine that in children can progress to become more of a problem. The problem with hers is the age that hers was diagnosed. As she reaches skeletal maturity, the curve can increase in magnitude. At 45 degrees they have to do surgery bacause it begins to effect breathing and arm motions.
I am worried about her because I don't want her to even need to have to endure bracing to keep it from worsening because I don't want her being ostracized (sp?) in school.
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 11:01:31
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I have never had a chiropractor adjust my elbow. I thought their training was limited to the spine.
In any case I would bet the elbow pain is a conditioned response, treat it like any other TMS symptom.
And, address your core belief in TMS. I was a die-hard chiropractor addict for 15 years. Now I would never even consider going back to one, despite whatever symptoms I may have. If you truly believe in TMS, this has to be the attitude. |
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 12:46:03
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Dave,
Chiros adjust jaws, elbows, knees, everything.
Mine adjusted my jaw for TMJ.
Res, not sure about your elbow but you're probably not needing it adjusted. Probably the emotions around this whole thing sent you into a tailspin of TMS.
As far as your daughter's scoliosis, Tennis Tom took the question out of my mouth. I have scoliosis, was diagnosed at age 12 with it. I have learned a LOT about scoliosis and how it DOES NOT cause back pain unless it's SEVERE. Having your daughter treated sounds a bit like the same old song and dance we are all told by all the doctors. I wouldn't touch it unless you have absolute proof it's a severe form. Typically nothing is done about scoliosis unless it's putting pressure on organs like kidneys, bowels, etc. Scoliosis in itself generally does not cause back pain. So are they just telling her "you have scoliosis, you must get chiro, PT, etc" or is she having issues because she is severely deformed from it? I'd question that more than I'd question your elbow right now. |
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res
USA
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Posted - 07/21/2005 : 14:28:25
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Again, my daughter is not getting treatment because she has pain. She is getting treatment because she is so young and at this age (7)scoliosis progresses much more quickly because of the rapid growth. At twelve (for women) you have almost reached skeletal maturity and therefore the curve does not progress much. If this were the case, it would just take its course and it would be no big deal. I totally agree that scoliosis is nothing to be concerned about in adults and in most children that are near or have reached skeletal maturity. The issue is not preventing my daughter from having pain. The issue with my daughter is that with her rapid growth and immature skeleton it is likely to become severe. I must admit I am a little annoyed that I asked for help with my elbow and just mentioned one of my current stresses and I am getting questioned about doing what is best for my child.
I admit that the biggest mistake that I made was going to the chiro for my elbow. I really think that all he did was scare me because I don't think that he could have actually done anything to hurt my elbow. And even if he did, like Sarno says, all injuries heal in about 2 weeks. So, even if this was an injury, it should heal. I know that there should be no pain. I guess I just needed a little reassurance.
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 07/22/2005 : 13:24:07
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| apologies for the lack of addressing the elbow. The elbow sounds so harmless compared to the scoliosis "treatments". It sends up red flags when people who have been through those diagnoseses hear them again with someone, especially a child. So back to your elbow. As I said in my earlier post, I can't speak for the elbow since I've never had that issue but it sure sounds like TMS. Sorry for the seemingly ignorant reply there. |
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Elbow pain
