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Symzie
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/23/2005 : 09:14:35
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Just wanted to tell you what happened to me over the last year
I hurt my back squatting in the gym 12 months ago. Went to Physio and was told I had herniated disk. He passed me to another who agreed. The next time I went I saw another physio who just continued the same exercises and mobilisation of the spine etc. I all I saw 5 different physios
No improvement
Decided to try an Osteopath. He looked at my back and said that I most definitely did not have a herniated disk. I had SI Joint problems. He made a few adjustments and the pain went from my hip.
A few days later the pain arrived in my neck. Went back to the Osteo and he adjusted my neck, the pain disappeared..... but reappeared in my shoulders. I then had a shoulder massage and guess what... the pain went back to my hip
Thought I'd try a Chiropractor
By this time I'd lost my job due to my back problems and am on benefit
Chiro said I had a twisted pelvis which was causing the SI Joint to seize up. He cracked everything that would crack and the next day I can't walk to the other side of the room, stand up straight or even use the loo standing up.
Saw a senior Chiro and she un-did what the first chiro had done but I still had the same problem that I'd had 10 months before - my hip was killing me and I had pain all down my right leg, my neck and shoulders still ached and I was going dizzy every time I stood up.
I then became very good at making the pain go away. I would wake up and use an electric massager on myself (glute medius), I would then put a heat pack on and then stretch the hip flexors and piriformis and just about anything else I could stretch. The pain would go for a few hours and then come back.
I went to another Osteo and he assured me that my pelvis was no longer twisted and nor was my sacrum. The problem was that my muscles were going into spasms but why? When I left the Osteo I walking down his driveway and he called me back. He told me to stop limping and walking like I was injured, even if it was a little uncomfortable, so I did.
When I read the John Sarno book, I just couldn't help laughing. I'm exactly the personality type he describes. As soon as the pain goes from one place it reappears somewhere else. When I was injured I'd just been made redundant. Structurally my back is sound so why is my mind telling my back muscles that they need to freak out?
Anyway, I read the book and that night I didn't go through my usual routine of massage, stretch, heat then walk. I slouched on the sofa all night watching TV and went to bed. When I woke up I went down the gym and did squatting, cycling, bench press, straight legged deadlifting and rowing. Very stiff but no pain.
What can I say, I'm convinced I was doing it to myself. I think I kind of already knew it but when someone else confirmed it it was just what I needed. I definately think you really have to believe it 100% for it to stop, so if anyone else is in my position I hope this helps.
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Laura
USA
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Posted - 06/23/2005 : 11:19:02
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Great story! You do have to laugh, don't you? It's funny the lengths the brain will go to to grab our attention. My TMS travels around my body, alternating between dizziness, stomach problems, joint pain, TMJ, headaches, and urinary problems. It's comical already. My stomach hasn't been bothering me lately but last night, during a very heated argument with my husband, my stomach began burning, as if someone were pouring acid into it. It hasn't done that in a few months. Usually, it's more IBS symptoms than anything else.
I had a chiropractor tell me nearly three years ago that my dizziness was due to my "hips being misaligned." I spent thousands of dollars, and drove 30 minutes, twice per week to see him and get "adjusted." I got more out of reading Dr. Sarno's books and from journaling and visiting this forum than from all the chiropractic adjustments in the world. I used to see a local chiropractor every time my back "went out." Now, if I bend or twist wrong and it starts to hurt, I simply "think" it away and it's gone the same day it appears.
I have a friend whose husband has spent thousands and thousands of dollars on a local chiropractor, seeing him for weekly "adjustments" and getting nowhere with it. He was flat on his back, in a great deal of pain, and I suggested to his wife that she buy two books: Mindbody Prescription and Healing Back Pain. By the evening, he was dancing around and hasn't had a day of pain since. Miracle? Nope. Just Sarno.
Laura
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Symzie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/24/2005 : 04:14:24
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I hear you, I've spent £3000 ($5500 I think, not sure) on being clicked back into place so far. When I finally believed that it was my muscles pulling me out of place, then I couldn't see any other reason for it happening than subconscious stress of some kind
Stomach! yes, me too. In fact I was getting very worried because I was getting uneven heart beats but my doctor couldn't find any problem. I've found out that if you have tension in your back between the shoulder blades it can cause acid stomach; and if you have acid stomach it irritates the vegas nerve which causes PACs and PVCs (I think that's what they're called) I found an internet forum full of hundereds of people having the same problem.
Also, I've noticed people on here saying that their sphincter keeeps throwing a wobbly. I've noticed this too and wondered if it could cause the sphincter further up between stomach and diaphragm to spasm, because wouldn't this cause the same problem (acid stomach)?
Paul
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Edited by - Symzie on 06/24/2005 04:16:50 |
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johnnyg
USA
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Posted - 06/24/2005 : 08:41:41
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Your situation is very similar to what I went through. My back pain would go away quite as quickly as yours did, but it is a great illustration of the kind of stuff you go through just prior to accepting and realizing that there is nothing physically wrong. Thanks for sharing.
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Hilary
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/24/2005 : 15:11:45
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Glad to know you've been helped, Symzie. I saw a chiro 3 times a week for 6 weeks for my dizziness, of all things. I was desperate to believe anything. There's one born every minute, huh? He explained exactly how it all worked - how the such-and-such vertebrae was touching the something nerve and compressing the whatsit blood vessel, and that if I saw him religiously for 4 months, I'd be cured. Guess what - I wasn't. I was a lot poorer, though.
Chiros! I guess they do some good for somebody somewhere, but for the most part I think they're the most pointless profession in the world. |
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Symzie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/25/2005 : 04:56:30
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Hilary, I agree, I'm sure they have their uses but it all seems like a bunch of quackery to me. Why 4 months, how does he know it will take exactly 4 months? Why not 3 months or 5 months 
....The last Chiropractor I saw told me 10 visits and I'd be ok, I told him I wasn't interested in his business plan, which is all it was. He lectured me on why I shouldn't doubt his expertise and then the next 3 weeks was spent not being able to walk, make of that what you will.
John, it wasn't an overnight thing exactly but it did go quite quickly. I still get the odd pain but I'm not seeing any Osteos or Chiros, not on any pain-killers or any treatment at all. My back is better than it's been in a year beyond recognition really.. hope you back is ok too |
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Posted - 06/26/2005 : 03:05:39
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Good to hear your story, Symzie. It has come at a good time - an antidote for the angry, sad and negative posts that have been appearing.
Like you, I've been down the chiro, physio etc route. One chiro even convinced me that I should take two liquid herbal preparations, bought from him, of course - for what I can't remember. I could probably have bought a new car with the money I spent.
Like you also - reading Dr Sarno's work gave me the confirmation I needed to go with my own intuition - that in the case of my lower back, 'They' - the doctors, physios, chiros etc were wrong with their various diagnoses and I was right in thinking the problem was rooted in my own brain.
This was a difficult concept at first because I have had a couple of serious illnesses in my life that have required surgery. Both of which were treated very successfully by conventional methods. I also had a very bad injury to my shoulder - surgery worked brilliantly and the physio I saw for aftercare really helped.
So, prior to getting the intractable back pain which wouldn't respond to anything suggested by medicos - I had a lot of trust and faith in doctors - still have, in fact. It's just that they don't deal well with mind-body problems.
Best wishes
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Symzie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/12/2005 : 04:26:12
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Just to reinforce what I said a few weeks ago just in case it could have been a placebo effect. After a year of constant pain my pain has completely gone now, no stiffness, no sciatica, no neck pain, no shoulder pain, all gone 100%
I should also add that I'm the most cynical person you'll ever meet, I don't believe anything unless it's proven
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Marg
New Zealand
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 16:54:14
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Hey you guys have cracked me up big time. After I discovered Dr Sarno, which was a little over one month ago, I laughed, between the sad and hard parts I laughed. My body pulled the most incredible joke on my favourite physio. He tried so hard to get me well. Saw him frequently for 8 1/2 months, but he did something well. He spent alot of time setting me personal challenges. The pain was not allowed to stop me achieving anything, went into the mountainw for tramping, running and the gym, the works all with too much pain. He built up my inner strength and also kept assuring me there was nothing structurally wrong so when the time came that I read Dr Sarno alot of the good work had already been done. Through the Physio, after Sarno, I had the re-hab specialist de-programme me. The chiropractoar whom I saw for ten visits also did me good. One day he held me tight and told me what he thought of me. He told that he liked me, he thought I was strong and courageous. He told me that he couldn't give me the answer for my pain but that he knew I would fine it if I kept looking. He suggested I stay with the physio. The chiropractor also spent a good deal of time helping me identify with my past, which among other things was Irish Catholic and alcohol. So for me my medical team helped me. Not the full answer but they helped. If anybody has a nice message for my physio then I will ensure he gets it. Physios who build up inner strength can only helpful with our problem.  |
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Marg
New Zealand
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Posted - 07/13/2005 : 22:31:29
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Hi guys, Marg here again. About my physio, he has very nearly got the problem right. He partially owns 3 fitness centres, he has a nutrionist working for him, a re-hab specialist and a psychologist as well. All accident patients get to see all the above, and stay with physio for three months or more if required. I was a patient for 8 1/2 months. My accident was quite trivial (thoroughbred horse planted me in the ground suffered head injury - not a back injury) but I could't get better and not through lack of trying. The psychologist saw me two days after I opened up Dr Sarno's book and kept close for the next two weeks. They saw my amazing turn-around. The psychologist has held onto Dr Sarno's book for five weeks, says he is enjoying it. Sadly, the physio says he is too busy to read it. Physio needs to see me in the gym whenever he is there. I'll always be grateful for his help and hopefully one day when he gets another Marg, (whom he said was a terribly challenge)
he might ask how I did it. He was impressed by the way I was able to turn off the pain as if it were a switch. |
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