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art

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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  13:20:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been wondering about pain and TMS for a while now. Since in the case of TMS we're talking about minor oxygen deprivation if I'm understanding things correctly, there should be a reasonable limit to the pain we might feel, yes? Assuming that this is correct, would a more intense experience of pain argue that a particular injury was not TMS?

Of course, this is all relative and we all have different pain threshholds, threshholds that can shift over time depending on how otherwise well we are, what are mood is, etc. etc. I've had back spasms that I know was TMS that in the scheme of things was pretty painful. Still,I've never had anything in the way of TMS symptoms that were terribly intense or agonizing.

I guess I'm talking run-of-the-mill "over use" injuries. I know there are psychosomatic illnesses that can be terribly painful indeed, so I don't want to be minimizing that at all..I know people on this forum have suffered greatly..

Wondering what you guys think...

A.

Dave

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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  15:34:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by art

I've been wondering about pain and TMS for a while now. Since in the case of TMS we're talking about minor oxygen deprivation if I'm understanding things correctly, there should be a reasonable limit to the pain we might feel, yes?

No, as Dr. Sarno states, it takes only a tiny amount of oxygen deprivation to cause significant muscle and/or nerve pain.

In fact, the most excruciating pain I have ever experienced was an acute TMS attack in the form of lower back spasms.
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art

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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  15:39:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well there goes yet another pet theory down the drain.
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marytabby

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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  15:56:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I find it interesting, too, that one patient of Sarno's asked if he just enhaled pure oxygen would that stop the process of oxygen deprivation and the answer is no. That is a question I would have also asked. Pretty much leaves us to our own devices.
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art

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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  17:05:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mary wrote
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I find it interesting, too, that one patient of Sarno's asked if he just enhaled pure oxygen would that stop the process of oxygen deprivation and the answer is no. That is a question I would have also asked. Pretty much leaves us to our own devices.


Or you know what? Even better, just inject a little oxygen right into the deprived area I could shoot a little air into the bottom of my foot and be off and running. Figuratively and literally.

Be nice, eh?
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