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shawnsmith

Canada
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Posted - 05/30/2017 :  07:06:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chronic back pain? Journalist investigates what works and what doesn't

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-may-29-2017-1.4133262/chronic-back-pain-journalist-investigates-what-works-and-what-doesn-t-1.4133264

tennis tom

USA
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Posted - 05/30/2017 :  12:30:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Coincidenatlly, she lives down the street from me, and is doing a book signing at my club in a few days. I'll ask if she knows of Sarno, I would imagine she should.

If anyone wants to know more about the event PM me here.

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John Sarno, MD
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(212) 263-6035

Dr. Sarno is now retired, if you call this number you will be referred to his associate Dr. Rashbaum.

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tennis tom

USA
4489 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2017 :  19:44:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.cathrynjakobsonramin.com/upcoming-events/2017/6/5/reading-qa-and-book-signing-at-the-club-at-harbor-point-bar-grill-in-mill-valley-ca
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JFran

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Posted - 06/01/2017 :  20:23:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was going to post about this book as well. I'm curious if this is a worthwhile read for us TMS/Sarno believers. I haven't listened to the CBC segment yet, but from the little I read about her book it doesn't look like she writes about psychosomatic pain?

She must have come across Sarno in her research so I'm curious to learn how much it comes up in her book. Does anyone know?
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JFran

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Posted - 06/01/2017 :  20:26:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*** Answered my own question by searching on Twitter. Apparently she writes about Sarno a lot in the book: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=%40cjramin%20Sarno&src=typd

* I've listened to her interview on CBC and am unconvinced that she supports the Sarno treatment. Interested to see how she presents it in the book.

I wouldn't recommend listening to the CBC podcast -- it's mostly about physical treatment.

Edited by - JFran on 06/02/2017 10:37:33
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healingfromchronicpain

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Posted - 06/06/2017 :  11:32:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't read the book, but I agree, the article in the link focuses on physical and not psychological. I couldn't even start being more physical until I addressed the psychological side of things. I agree with the article where it says traditional treatments haven't really been proven to be effective and that we do need to be active and not sit and dwell and obsess over the pain. But the article focuses too much on just physical activity, in my humble opinion.

Healingfromchronicpain
(My story and journey are described at www.healingfromchronicpain.com)
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tennis tom

USA
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Posted - 06/06/2017 :  16:04:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I attended her event yesterday and purchased her book and had her autograph it. I haven't opened it yet except to look for the Good Doctor in the index and there are three citations for him. Several people along with myself brought up emotional causes for pain. She discussed Dr. Sarno and was well versed in his theory and his ostracism at NYU Rusk by his colleagues. I will read the citations for Dr. Sarno and comment on them. As is mentioned in the subtitle of her book "CROOKED", on the cover of her book, she writes about "Outwitting the Back Pain Industry".

One of her main points is to avoid invasive procedures such as surgeries and be wary of voo-doo treatments that could result in permanent damage and even death. Her point of view is complementary to TMS theory, that back surgeries do not work, and "degenerated" discs are normal "gray hair of the spine" as Dr. Sarno says. Her book is an overview of the back-pain industry and multitude of treatments, devices, machines and various modalities sufferers try--before they stumble onto Dr. Sarno and his TMS/psychosomatic solution.

I've tried most of the voo-doos she mentions that don't work and reading her book might help others avoid wasting a lot of time and money on things that don't work or may cause injury or worse. And, the appetizers she supplied were yummy.

Edited by - tennis tom on 06/16/2017 10:21:13
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healingfromchronicpain

6 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2017 :  21:44:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The book sounds good. I feel the same way about trying to help people understand the mind-body connection before they waste time and money while continuing to suffer trying things that don't work (which is why I have shared my journey on my website).

But sadly because of the current (but hopefully changing) medical model, I feel I had to go through many steps of trying traditional medicine before I could fully accept the reality of the mind-body connection. I do see it changing, but there are still so many people I see who are caught in the mindset of "traditional" medicine. :(

I look forward to reading the book. Thanks for the update.

Healingfromchronicpain
(My story and journey are described at www.healingfromchronicpain.com)
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Webdan65

USA
182 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2017 :  08:30:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bought the book. She does a great job of telling what's wrong with the mainstream medical approach to chronic pain. But we already know that. She does give kudo's to Dr. Sarno. But in the end, she concludes that less invasive PHYSICAL treatments are her recommendation. Nothing new here for the TMS sufferer.

Dan Buglio
Zero Pain Now Coach
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tennis tom

USA
4489 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2017 :  10:30:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've read the three citations for the Good Doctor listed in the index and there are some new incites as to the man from some interviews she did with him just prior to his retirement. If you're a Sarno devotee and a TMS/psychosomatic chronic pain hobbyist as I am, they will be worth the price of the book, and it has a nice cover, and a good picture of her. I'll probably be running into her since she lives down the street from me. I'm going to read her chapter on "Back Whisperers" next. I think I played tennis with one of them a while back, or one of his co-authors.

She did have a great line, something to the effect of "Wouldn't you rather live a good life even if it's in pain sometimes?"--I'll get a more accurate quote when I open the book again--it was very inspiring though--a long the lines of "Pain is inevitable but suffering is not."
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altherunner

Canada
447 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2017 :  20:19:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I ordered it today, she was on a radio show and she sounded sincere.
She really pushed exercise, which I agree with.
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