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marytabby Posted - 05/05/2005 : 04:11:37
Good news. I ran at the gym twice this week with not a twinge of pain in my butt. Not even a tiny twinge. That is progress. Last week I was fighting through the pain, doing alternating walking with running with my butt/thigh hurting. I think even though I said meeting with Dr. Martinez did not seem to make a difference last Friday, it probably did help subconsciously without my realizing it because prior to seeing him I couldn't do much running or power walking without the butt acting up. So for those of you who have not seen a TMS doctor for a diagnosis, it may be a good way to get things going.
Mary
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Fox Posted - 05/05/2005 : 12:50:56
I did see a TMS doctor for an evaluation several years ago. He was an osteopath in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. I can't remember his name right now. He did diagnose TMS. Very nice, thorough, and compassionate physician. For some reason, he no longer shows up on the TMS doctor list - which does concern me just a bit as to his credibility. No TMS docs anywhere near Raleigh, NC to go to for a second opinion.....But based on my personality and symptom history, I just gotta have TMS.
marytabby Posted - 05/05/2005 : 11:55:36
I had the same thing, I'd walk/run and have buttock pain a half hour later, on like Christmas, when I challenged myself Christmas eve and tha back went out the next day. The running was a TRIGGER not the cause and I have learned that here on the board and by reading the books. If you have not seen a TMS doc yet, I'd suggest do that as well because now I can run whereas before seeing the TMS doc last week I had pain a half hour later, as you are describing. Good luck!
Fox Posted - 05/05/2005 : 08:21:57
Maryalma8 - Congratulations....I'm trying to get back into running right now after doing just brisk walking for 45 minutes each am with my dog for the last three years. Running never hurt me in the past and I used to do 6 miles a day -- even when my sciatica was horrible -- and it never added to the pain. But now for some reason, it seems to be giving me butt, knee, and ankle pain - not while running - it comes on about 30 minutes later. I started off last week with a slow 2 mile jog. I had no trouble doing the 2 miles wind-wise or pain-wise. But 30 minutes later, up and down the sciatic nerve was on fire. The pain diminished after about 3 days but my knee still felt numb and very stiff with strong pain if I moved it certain ways -- especially if I raised the knee up -- like when I am putting on my pants. This wasn't your normal soreness after a period of laying off type pain. It was my old sciatic pain at its worst plus knee pain -- all in the same leg where I've had problems for 20 years. No problem with the other leg. I know this must be TMS. This morning, I did the two miles with half walking and half running (mixed all together). 30 minutes later, the same pain was back just as bad as last week. (In both running attempts, I did my 45 minute walk with my jumbo Pomeranian beforehand.) I don't think I'm going to do the half walk/half run thing anymore since this is not your expected weekend warrior overexertion muscle pain. I've got to decide whether to drop the whole run thing or run solid for 2 miles consistently (every other day)(with the idea of eventually reaching 6 miles each run again). Before I started this effort, I was getting plenty of exercise a day but none of it was strongly aerobic. I was (and am still) walking briskly 45 minutes each morning at 5:30am, doing 500 crunches (different types), doing knee bends and calf raises, and doing 25 minutes of Charles Atlas isometric exercise -- an hour and a half routine every morning. But I felt I needed to add running each morning (but alternating every other day with 30 minutes of punching/kicking the heavy bag -- which does not trigger up the sciatica at all) because I wanted to lose 10 pounds and because I wanted to get in some strongly aerobic exercise to help me with periodic excessive worry and mild depression problems....I think that
Dr. Sarno and Dr. Siegel (the Back Sense guy) would say to stick with it and notice how the resultant pain is different in degree or location or duration after each run whereas, if the pain was structural, the resulting pain would be consistent in its expression each time. Of course, unfortunately, the pain response after the second run seems just like the pain response after the first run (at least so far- I can't comment on the duration aspect yet)...I need some support on this as I'm afraid I'm going to chicken out on this and go back to my old, safe exercise routine, which does not provide me with all of the benefits that I really want. I want to live a fear-free life with no physical limitations due to the fear of triggering TMS pain as Sarno tells us to shoot for. Most of my conditioned fears are gone now after years of rereading and relistening to Sarno and checking this web site every day...Am I experiencing any current psychological stressors right now? I sure am and one of them has hit a vunerable spot associated with early childhood parental rejection. So my brain probably thinks that a little distraction is needed....What do you think guys and gals?

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