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| moose1 |
Posted - 04/16/2005 : 17:59:48
Hiya folks,
Has anyone changed their diet for the better and seen an improvement in their TMS symptoms and overall health? I've been house sitting for a friend lately and picked up this book they have laying around called Potatoes not Prozac. I initially picked it up because of the goofy title but it is actually pretty damn interesting. It basically discusses the role of "sugar sensitivity" in moods, overall well being and addiction. The author is a drug and alcohol treatment counselor who discovered a strong connection between addiction and diet in herself and others. Apparently many people who were hopeless alcoholics and drug addicts were able to recover in large part due to a diet high in protein and vegetables. She also cites a list of diet-related, low serotonin or beta-endorphin symptoms that reads like Sarno's TMS equivs.
Anyone?
Tanx,
Moose |
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| moose1 |
Posted - 05/09/2005 : 19:32:59
verdammt,
thanks again for the info and for the links. i'm not easily offended and always enjoy well placed profanity in any well written stuff, a la the onion, wonkette, etc.
so i have the book now and i'm about a third of the way through. i certainly see myself more in the low blood sugar and low seratonin chart than on the low beta-endorphin chart...
tired all the time... check
having trouble concentrating... hell yes
having trouble remembering... did you say something?
easily frustrated... check
insomnia... check
feeling blocked/scattered... check
short attention span... double check
and even tho i don't eat sugar compulsively and/or have wild mood swings as a result of my sugar intake like many people described in the book, i do think that my required, daily chocolate fix, intense love of bread and inability to eat just one of anything listed in the book (if there's a bowl of Doritos at a party, i'll eat half the thing...i literally can't stop, especially if i've had a few beers), i think there might be something here.
it would be most cool if we were onto something here for our (and others') symptoms. it makes sense that having messed up levels of critical brain chemicals as a result of food would create symptoms. i suppose it flies in the face of traditional TMS theory, which says that unconcious rage would be enough to alter these chemicals, but at this point i'm willing to give this a try. i'm sick and tired if feeling sick and tired.
best,
moose |
| verdammt |
Posted - 05/09/2005 : 18:54:31
moose – Basically there are two classes of sugar: 1.refined, added sugar, which goes by about 25 different names; and 2.intrinsic, natural sugar, as found in fruit and dairy products. The intrinsic sugars are of course healthier because they're bound with other substances like fibre and protein, so they're released more slowly.
I read the nutrition label on every food package. If sugar is listed there, but it's not in the separate list of ingredients, I figure it must be intrinsic sugar, e.g. lactose or some other natural sugar. That probably explains the slight sugar content of plain yogurt and cottage cheese.
The goal isn't necessarily zero sugar in your diet. It's more a matter of getting it down to a healthy level. Like I said, according to most health organizations, if you can keep just the added sugars under 40 grams a day, you're doing well. The average North American adult consumes twice that much every day. Teenagers consume triple that amount or more, mainly in soft drinks.
To get a visual sense of what 4 grams looks like, fill a teaspoon with white sugar. Now dump 2.5 of those into a tablespoon, and you'll see the sugar content of most jams (10 g/tbsp).
Dump 10 teaspoons of sugar into a glass. Add carbonated water, flavoring and coloring and there's a can of Coke. Something like a Double Super Gulp is beyond belief.
If you're not easily offended, here's a pretty good article on sugar.
http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/drugs/sugar/
There's a related article on corn that's pretty interesting, too.
http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/corn/
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| moose1 |
Posted - 05/08/2005 : 21:02:19
Verdammt,
Thanks for the response. Even tho I only scored a 3 on the sugar addict test, I'm going to give it a shot. It can only help.
When you say you've had no sugar, are you saying that you are eating foods that contain no sugar whatsoever? I went to the store tonight and couldn't find anything, including organic yogurt, that didn't have at least some sugars. I plan on getting the book out of the library for a more detailed read, but can you tell me if the author explains if by sugar she means stuff like candy, sugar in coffee, etc, or ALL sugar, meaning you have to find food that is totally free of it?
Thanks again,
Moose |
| verdammt |
Posted - 05/08/2005 : 18:33:25
moose1 - "Can you remind me of what your most troubling TMS symptoms are (or were) and which ones have seem to have diminished as a result of the potato diet?"
Sure. Lower back pain, mid-back pain, upper back pain, neck pain, heart palpitations, skin rashes, miscellaneous chronic aches and pains, and migraines. I didn't experience any of these torments last week. I didn't focus on TMS at all.
It's not a "potato diet" by any stretch, moose, just a modified way of eating. Very healthy. Three squares a day (no sugar, no alcohol, no snacking/grazing) leaning towards protein and vegetables and whole grain foods – nothing like Atkins' artery-clogging suicide diet.
The "Potatoes not Prozac" title was a miscalculated attempt to grab attention in a competitive market. Potatoes are just one of the many carbohydrates recommended by the author. The important thing is they're complex carbs that are slowly digested, so there's no sudden rise in blood sugar levels and no corresponding sudden release of insulin. The carbs to avoid are simple and quickly digested, made from refined white flour and such.
"I'm still trying to figure out if I have a sugar issue. While I don't think I eat so much sugar, I do use it in my coffee (now only decaf for me), LOVE ketchup and always have a lunch-time craving for something sweet, usually a cookie or candy bar."
Take the sugar sensitivity test at the author's web site: http://www.radiantrecovery.com/sensitive.html
Not everyone is sugar sensitive. I scored 8.5 out of 10. I'm a bona fide sugar junkie. Along with a powerful sweet tooth, there's usually an inordinate fondness for alcohol. That's me again. I'm not an alcoholic, but once I start drinking wine, I can't stop until the bottle is empty. I'm a guzzler. I can't keep any booze in the house.
"Also, have you done the potato before bed routine?"
No. This is hardly mentioned in the book, btw. It's not crucial. I don't know if I'll ever get around to it. I'd rather sleep on an empty stomach. I don't have any serious sleep problems.
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| moose1 |
Posted - 05/08/2005 : 09:04:02
Verdammt,
Can you remind me of what your most troubling TMS symptoms are (or were) and which ones have seem to have diminished as a result of the potato diet? I'm still trying to figure out if I have a sugar issue. While I don't think I eat so much sugar, I do use it in my coffee (now only decaf for me), LOVE ketchup and always have a lunch-time craving for something sweet, usually a cookie or candy bar.
Also, have you done the potato before bed routine?
Thanks!
Moose |
| verdammt |
Posted - 05/07/2005 : 20:20:19
Just had an amazing week. Following the nutrition advice of the book "Potatoes not Prozac," I've cut way back on sugar and alcohol. I even cut out my mid-morning coffee break six days in a row. No coffee, no muffins/Danishes/doughnuts. No afternoon bottle of juice, either. Didn't miss them in the least. No snacks, ever. I'm even drinking less coffee with breakfast. It just isn't the same without something sweet. Can't remember when I felt so alert and focused and productive. I felt so good, in fact, that I completely forgot about TMS.
You don't have to buy the book. The main points are outlined on the author's web site http://www.radiantrecovery.com/index.html
(Check out Greg Critser's book, "Fat Land - How Americans Became the Fattest People in the World," and watch the documentary "Supersize Me" while you're at it.)
Once you become conscious of how much sugar you're consuming and what it's doing to your body, it's easy to cut down. Almost every health organization recommends ten teaspoons (40 grams) of added sugar as the daily maximum. (ONE can of soda puts you over the limit!)
As you cut back on sugar, see if you don't lose your desire for it. Everything that's loaded with sugar (like ketchup and jam) will start to taste sickeningly sweet, as it should. You may notice that healthy foods like fruits and vegetables will start to taste better at the same time. I never would have believed it, but steamed broccoli has a really nice, subtle sweetness. Even plain lettuce is slightly sweet. Seriously! It's rarely noticeable, because it's usually drowned out by a sugary salad dressing.
Anyway, for me this is the ticket out of TMS hell. I feel better, I'm handling stress better, I'm losing weight (1/2 lb. a day, average), I'm more active, and I'm reducing my chances of developing diabetes and liver disease.
And all because of this great Forum!
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| Suz |
Posted - 04/26/2005 : 08:22:41
I have to say that doing this yeast free diet has really changed the way I feel. It is pretty much carb and sugar free - mostly lean protein, veggies and a few nuts. My skin is incredibly clear and smoother (had acne rosacea) - my digestion is much better and my energy levels. There is definitely something to be said for healthy eating.
I have to do this strict diet while I take the anti-yeast medication. I hope to add in fruit and a few whole grains when I get over this thing. I can tell you though - I still suspect the yeast problem is related to TMS. My pain over the last few days has totally gone away in my hip - due to very successful therapy session - I yell and cry a lot! and I stood up to my mother's nonsense on the phone which made me feel very strong and empowered - almost released from fear.
My yeast symptoms have actually got a little worse over the last few days - go figure! |
| Scottydog |
Posted - 04/24/2005 : 10:57:53
There has recently been a tv program in the UK where a well-known TV chef took on the task of creating healthy school meals in a typical state school. (About 70 cents is normally spent on each meal so you can imagine the quality).
They interviewed the "inhaler lady" - teaching assistant who gave all the kids with asthma their lunchtime inhaler session - and she was out of work ! None of the kids needed their inhalers once their diet had been improved ! Just shows.
Scottydog |
| verdammt |
Posted - 04/23/2005 : 11:42:07
"Has anyone changed their diet for the better and seen an improvement in their TMS symptoms and overall health? I've been house sitting for a friend lately and picked up this book they have laying around called Potatoes not Prozac." - moose1
Thanks for bringing this to our attention, moose! I got a copy from the local library and I'm working through it. I think the author is really onto something. It's given me a new awareness of my sugar addiction - how it's connected to my emotional highs and lows and physical complaints (fatigue, weight gain, etc).
Just cutting back on sugar-as-comfort/medication has made me feel less cranky and more stable.
Like Dave said, an improved diet gives you a mental edge in the battle against TMS. Good stuff! Have a look. |
| kenny V |
Posted - 04/21/2005 : 11:14:01
Suz,
I am going to try to be sensitive to your needs to help you make an INFORMED choice yet, frank with you in doing so. Perhaps you will not receive it constructively but it is only my intention to do so. Possibly by now you are open and seeking a dose of Gary’s bluntness to get to the point.
>Kenny,
>Interesting you mentioned Chelation - my doctor wanted me to look into doing that - he >thought it would really help me get my body back on track.
On the subject of chelation I must say there are many methods that doctors CLAIM to be SAFE and EFFECTIVE. And good luck finding a doctor who knows this. Roll your eyes, shunt your expression and be taken back as you may with this comment. But I found this out the hard way after being involved with this for 4 years now. For that matter besides a proper chelation protocol Many doctors don’t even know how to obtain nor accurately read toxic elements lab results.
So what that said I must share what I have learned through all of this and as it related to treating our TMS symptoms as well.
>I am holding off for now, purely because of expense.
Btw chelation can be obtained naturally and it is very inexpensive with supplements such as (ALA) lipoic acid, which can be found in a general health food store.
But again must warn 2-3 things this supplement crosses the Blood brain barrier and must be used properly or you have the risk of redistribution of heavy metals in to all the major organs, including back into the brain. Than you also have from sprays to clays, mega vitamin doses drugs such as DSMA, DMPS, transdermal, IV and so on. Some are also going back to using Saunas for detox, Now this is nothing new.
Saunas—: "Sauna has been used to detox mercury miners since time immemorial - when they get too messed up, they go to the sauna during work hours instead of into
the mine shaft." "Sweating does indeed increase mercury excretion. Probably an hour or
two of sauna is the same as 50 mg of DMSA every 4 hours for a day." Note: Posters urged caution with saunas because mercury toxic people are often heat sensitive.
I am not going to comment on what is best or more effective protocol, that is up to you to decide. But I will say that of all of the treatments that are being used you MUST consider 2-3 things before doing so. How was I exposed to toxic exposure, injection, ingestion, through the skin, or a leeching effect such as through dental work?
Than I may ask am I still exposed to the source of HM toxicity, and what should I do prior to implementing a safe and effective chelation protocol?
> The psychologist I am seeing every week is very expensive as is the high protein diet and >vitamins. I will probably consider doing this treatment next. I am very lucky to have found >this guy - he is a real gem. He is covered 80% by my health insurance but it is still really
Now with all that intro to a chelation overview, I must comment on what I see to be your current mindset of thinking as you have looked at treating all your symptoms including TMS.
I say this to all including myself, so don’t take it personally as an attack, but please take it personally as an approach to treating TMS any other medical condition as well.
Frankly speaking you are all over the board and continuing to trust in the mainstream medical community with your condition. You must learn to educate and trust in your self that your body will always send a message in applying a treatment option. I don’t care what suffix these docs have at the end of their title, because you know more about your medical condition and personal makeup that needs attention. In addition you CARE more about being well than any person who will ever TREAT you.
I have learned this experience though treating my son and myself as well. There is so much our bodies will tell us if we would only listen to it as we apply any given treatment option.
Data and lab tests are all great tools, but if we would only learn to read our bodies as we look to obtain optimum health. We need to always keep this in mind when treating specific conditions and strive towards recovery from any medical condition.
Good luck to all
Kenny v
Bach to chelation
Suz
My best advice I can give you is to buy a book from someone who has studied this and also has written much on the subject as well has helped treat thousands of people to chelate safely like I said he is one of many of the educators, but I have found his work to be very informative. Thanks
Andrew Hall Cutler, PhD, PE is one of many people that I have learned about chelation from and consider him to be among the most knowledgeable about the subject.
http://www.noamalgam.com/
CHELATION
Q: What are chelating agents?
Chelating agents are compounds with two or more binding groups for certain
metals combined into one molecule. Chelating agents for mercury are DMPS (2,3 dimercaptopropanesulfonate sodium), DMSA (2,3 meso DiMercaptoSuccinic Acid. Generic name: Succimer. Trade name: Chemet) and ALA (alpha lipoic acid).
Q: What is DMPS?
DMPS has been approved for bulk distribution by compounding pharmacies and is excellent for removing mercury from the body (but not the brain) if it is used properly.
Unfortunately many physicians use it and other chelating agents improperly, and like any drug these can be extremely dangerous when not used right.
Q: What is DMSA?
DMSA is a prescription medication which has been approved by the FDA for lead poisoning in children. It also works well for mercury. DMSA removes mercury from everywhere in the body except the brain, because it does not cross the blood-brain barrier.
Q: What is ALA or LA?
Alpha lipoic acid (ALA or LA) is an over-the-counter supplement which has been found to effectively chelate mercury. Unlike DMSA and DMPS, LA will cross the blood-brain barrier, and so it can move mercury out of or into the brain. LA should not be used if there has been recent mercury exposure (within 3 months) or if you have high copper levels, since LA reduces copper excretion.
A few Resources again this is not a cut and paste model, it is for informational purpose to help you make informed choices while understanding more about yeast as it relates to chelation.http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/
http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html#counting_rules
http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#chelation
Q: I've heard that glutathione, chlorella, cilantro, cysteine, MSM, NAC, garlic, and saunas will chelate naturally, and that the natural way is better. Is this true?
Don't assume that because something is "natural," that it is necessarily better. As Andy has reminded us, strychnine and botulism are natural, and deadly. That said, some natural remedies are excellent. LA is a natural supplement available at health food stores, and it has been found to be a good chelator for mercury and arsenic. You have to read about and study each one so that you have some idea what you are giving your child. All of these remedies have been discussed on the list, and some of our list members swear by them. You are encouraged to inform yourself and make up your own mind. But here's what Andy and Amy say about them:
Glutathione – Andy: "Glutathione is not a chelator. Supplemental glutathione itself is of very little value since your gut should digest it. If your gut is not digesting it you will soon start taking other things to MAKE your gut digest it because letting undigested things like glutathione into your bloodstream will soon cause major allergy problems."
Chlorella—Andy: "While there is little in press that shows chlorella to be harmful, there are multitudinous observations of real people which show that. All you have to do is ask
around. Chlorella is simply another "sulfur food." It is very harmful to people who
are high in sulfur."
"Dr. Klinghardt, is the one that popularized DMPS injections and DMSA every other day, the first and second most dangerous mercury treatment protocols. Now he is on to chlorella, which is also very dangerous. I know several people who took it per his protocol and suffered permanent neurological damage as a result."
Cilantro—Andy: "There is some superstition that cilantro helps, and it really may, but it
isn't clear how to use it."
And this from Dr. Amy Holmes—"Cilantro. Untested. A few reports that it MAY cross the blood-brain barrier and chelate mercury, but no data. Please bear in mind that no one knows what the ingredient in cilantro is that MAY do this. Is every cilantro equal? Who knows? I don't see how one could possibly be even somewhat sure that you are keeping a relatively steady blood level of THE INGREDIENT when we don't know what THE INGREDIENT is or if all cilantro has the same amount of it. And if anything in mercury chelation is more important, I can't think of it."
Cysteine—Not a chelator. Andy: "Don't give cysteine/cystine or sources of it during ALA chelation unless you definitively know the child has low plasma levels of cysteine (not low-ish, definitively abnormally low)."
Dr. Amy: "I think we are much better off leaving glutathione, MSM, cysteine, etc. supplements alone. They cause many more problems than they can fix in an untested person.
MSM—Not a chelator. Andy: "The more I hear about MSM the more I suggest people avoid it. I keep getting random negative reports." And "It is an exceptionally bad idea to use MSM, cysteine, NAC or glutathione with LA since LA naturally increases your body's cysteine and glutathione levels."
NAC—This is a supplement which will cause the body to produce more glutathione. Andy: "Neither NAC nor glutathione remove any mercury from the brain - but they do
make whatever mercury is there a lot more toxic if administered in excessive
amounts."
Garlic—Not a chelator, but posters say it's great for pinworms.
Saunas—Andy: "Sauna has been used to detox mercury miners since time immemorial - when they get too messed up, they go to the sauna during work hours instead of into
the mine shaft." "Sweating does indeed increase mercury excretion. Probably an hour or
two of sauna is the same as 50 mg of DMSA every 4 hours for a day." Note: Posters urged caution with saunas because mercury toxic people are often heat sensitive.
Always Hope For Recovery
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| Suz |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 14:46:13
Kenny,
Interesting you mentioned Chelation - my doctor wanted me to look into doing that - he thought it would really help me get my body back on track. I am holding off for now, purely because of expense. The psychologist I am seeing every week is very expensive as is the high protein diet and vitamins. I will probably consider doing this treatment next. I am very lucky to have found this guy - he is a real gem. He is covered 80% by my health insurance but it is still really expensive.
Suz |
| kenny V |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 13:04:33
Kenny,
>That is exactly what I have done. I am under the care of a phenomenal MD/nutritionist
That is very surprising, haven’t met one of these yet.
This is much more to the protocol that you are have been introduced to.
You can also go to a PO. Or a Do. but that doesn’t make them an expert in toxins as it is involved in a compromised immune system.
>He believes that the steroids and anti-biotics have caused this.
Yup
Again may I ask
have you looked into understanding the relationship to poor mineral transport as it relates to heavy metal toxicity?
Perhaps a proper chelation protocol?
I did give you a few resources. At least look into how they obtain proper testing. Again the MS medical community has but NOT a clue about treating this.
>I tend to agree with you about the yeast problme but not 100%. If the brain can cause oxygen deprivation, why >can't it lower the immune system and make one more vulnerable to bacteria overgrowth.
>Dr. Sarno still insists that the immune system can be lowered by the brain and that is why one gets a yeast problem.
IMO have 2 say again
You are dealing with 2 different things here Suz
Your body will always tell you when something is wrong. And everything wrong IS NOT TMS.I had to stop looking at everything as TMS as well. It was hindering me from other areas of healing.
Please think (out of the box for a minute), Some things are real simple, just like a yeast infection is a yeast infection. No different to a cut that gets infected is a cut that got infected because it was not kept clean.
So with that said. I can only say it is your quest to find out what is causing the underlying yeast infection
I will have to disagree with Dr Sarno when it comes to ALL symptoms that the body reacts to.
However I will say that it does involve an over active or a compromised immune system.
Always Hope For Recovery
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| Suz |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 12:24:42
Kenny,
That is exactly what I have done. I am under the care of a phenomenal MD/nutritionist doctor. He believes in administering herbs and homeopathy instead of drugs. I am taking wonderful acidophilus, minerals, omega 3/6 and a high dose of vitamin C to support my body as it fights the yeast. My girlfriend who had a chronic yeast problem was cured by him and feels amazing now - can eat all sorts of different things with no problems. He put me on the yeast free diet and the anti-fungal herb to kill the yeast. He believes that the steroids and anti-biotics have caused this.
I don't have any asthma or excema but I do have rosacea/rashes on my face.
I tend to agree with you about the yeast problme but not 100%. If the brain can cause oxygen deprivation, why can't it lower the immune system and make one more vulnerable to bacteria overgrowth - we know that there are all sorts of TMS equivalents -headaches, dizziness, acne etc. I have had to be very open minded in accepting the TMS diagnosis so maybe I have to be the same here.
Anne G has shared how she used to have food allergies and no longer does since doing Sarno's work. She can eat whatever she wants. I couldn't believe it when I read her post but was quite elated.
Dr. Sarno still insists that the immune system can be lowered by the brain and that is why one gets a yeast problem. |
| kenny V |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 11:45:14
quote:
I am not too sure what to think about Sarno's comment. I have taken so many antibiotics and steroids for acne and back pain that it is not surprising my digestive system is suffering.
I have taken literally hundreds of anti-inflammatories for the back pain like Bextra, celebrex, advil, tylenol and horrible steroids for two months. How could these not affect me?
I will totally agree, in fact steroids and antibiotics block the defense properties against fighting yeast and infections.
So does Tylenol and most people don’t even know it.
Can I ask a question, just thought of it?
Do you suffer from eczema, or asthma?
Also do you use a nebuliser machine and are using albuturol or zofenex (spelling?)
Bc those prescriptions will promote yeast as well. Especially if you are a woman.
quote:
I believe that the acne is defintely an equivalent and obviously the back pain is TMS. But the drugs given to me by the doctors have affected my system badly. Dr. Sarno's point is that the underlying cause is from the brain - I believe that of the acne but am struggling with the yeast problem.
Ok I will have to say Suz; you have been at this TMS for a while, so by now you should be able to differentiate between a TMS symptom and a yeast infection. Sorry you have been exposed to Sarnoism way too long and have to think outside of TMS for everything that the body responds to. Your body will always tell you when something is wrong. And everything wrong IS NOT TMS.I had to stop looking at everything as TMS as well. It was hindering me from other areas of healing.
Please think (out of the box for a minute), Some things are real simple, just like a yeast infection is a yeast infection. No different to a cut that gets infected is a cut that got infected because it was not kept clean.
So with that said. I can only say it is your quest to find out what is causing the underlying yeast infection
quote:
I feel really good on the diet and feel that it may take a long time to get my system back to normal - maybe I will never be able to eat much sugar again.
I will have to say I have seen this diet do wonders in restoring the gut and digestive system. There is so much more in the science to healing the gut.
I would suggest seeing a real doctor in this field who deals with this on a regular basis.
I know this is a Dan! Referral list but doctor list these guys know there stuff it might not be up too date but you might find a doctor who can refer you to a nutritionist or a dietician who is affiliated with them. I am telling you they will get to the bottom of yeast with you.
Seen it 1000 times.
Here is a USA http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari-lists/danus.html
Just to remind you it can take up to a year to restore normal gut flora on a diet such as SCD.
Also get testing from these labs, they are also experts as well, they have answers and solutions. Any treatment you get from standard testing that have from allergists the mainstream medical community do not have a clue.
Great Plains Lab
http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home.htm
http://www.doctorsdata.com/
http://www.gsdl.com/
May put out a few Questions to
Have you considered looking into restoring and supporting the immune and digestive track though?
Glutothine, Selenium, acidophilus, abifidious?
(spelling).
Have you considered chelation?
Because again heavy metal toxicity promotes yeast infections continually until the gut is healed.
Honestly after the gut is healed you can restore many things to your diet.
quote:
I have also been told that yeast causes inflammation in the body - this fights my TMS diagnosis a little. I ate off my diet last weekend - had a fabulous piece of chocolate peanutbutter cake (yum!) - the next day I felt unbelievably ill - very depressed and sick. I also was almost unable to walk - sever sciatic pain - now this may have been caused by the anxiety from the way I felt.
And the cycle continues kiddo.
You are dealing with 2 different things here Suz
Yum yum you should be able to eat peanut butter cake if you are not allergic to nuts.
But if you have a yeast infection, forget a bout it!
quote:
I may go back and read some of Gary's thoughts on diet.
Dr. Sarno insists that his food allergies were caused by emotions
I think I have given you some more helpful info
I will have to disagree with Dr Sarno when it comes to ALL symptoms that the body reacts to.
However I will say that it does involve an over active immune system.
HLH
Kenny v
Always Hope For Recovery
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| Suz |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 10:27:45
Kasja,
I have chronic constipation and am constantly bloated. Every time I eat sugar my skin would break out in rashes and hives, I become very very tired and depressed. The doctor did a skin test - injecting yeast just under the skin and watched for a reaction. I had a very strong reaction - flaring right up into a huge red lump. My blood test confirmed a high allergy (350) to brewer's yeast. I also have a couple of food allergies - to eggs, oats and almonds - the three foods I was eating a lot of. This is very common with yeast - to develope food allergies that eventually go away. |
| Kajsa |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 10:18:12
Suz
How did you know that you had a yeast infection?
What was your symptoms?
Kajsa
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| Suz |
Posted - 04/20/2005 : 10:02:34
Kenny,
Thank you for all your information. I am very familiar with Elaine Gottschal as have done her diet in the past and it worked very well for me.
My diet is totally carbohydrate free and seems to suit me very well. I have been doing the blood type diet for an O blood which is very similar with some success.
I am not too sure what to think about Sarno's comment. I have taken so many antibiotics and steroids for acne and back pain that it is not surprising my digestive system is suffering. I believe that the acne is defintely an equivalent and obviously the back pain is TMS. But the drugs given to me by the doctors have affected my system badly. Dr. Sarno's point is that the underlying cause is from the brain - I believe that of the acne but am struggling with the yeast problem.
I have taken literally hundreds of anti-inflammatories for the back pain like Bextra, celebrex, advil, tylenol and horrible steroids for two months. How could these not affect me?
I feel really good on the diet and feel that it may take a long time to get my system back to normal - maybe I will never be able to eat much sugar again.
I have also been told that yeast causes inflammation in the body - this fights my TMS diagnosis a little. I ate off my diet last weekend - had a fabulous piece of chocolate peanutbutter cake (yum!) - the next day I felt unbelievably ill - very depressed and sick. I also was almost unable to walk - sever sciatic pain - now this may have been caused by the anxiety from the way I felt.
I may go back and read some of Gary's thoughts on diet.
Dr. Sarno insists that his food allergies were caused by emotions |
| kenny V |
Posted - 04/19/2005 : 12:38:34
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TMS diet
There is no doubt that diet plays a big role in overall health. Gary (the founder of this board) believed this very strongly, in fact I believe he practiced the "CRON" diet (Calorie Reduced Optimum Nutrition).
Well said Dave
And also may I mention, that the best advice a doctor use to give was to eat right and exercise, plenty of rest can be the best medical advice still given today.
Unfortunately many mainstreams MD’s have abandoned these simple principles and are now treating many conditions with drugs.
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He told me that food allergies and yeast infections are just another TMS equivalent of the body.
I will not go into details of all the new research that has been recently explored which is causing many infections diseases and compromised immune systems in our children today. However I will keep it simple and say that this statement is not true, a yeast infection can be caused by many factors heavy metal toxicity active viral infections and a damaged gut is the result of them. The use of drugs and food avoidance is one way of treating this condition but there is much more. I am only putting out the bread on this subject it will be up to you to partake of it and further investigate these connections.
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I have been diagnosed with a chronic yeast problem and am on a very strict diet right now composed of protein and veggies - no fruit, grains or sugars of any kind. The doctor did some blood tests which showed a severe allergy to eggs and some nuts. It is really quite difficult to do this diet.
Perhaps a question you should ask is why?There are many avenues to take I spoke in the past about detoxification but since diet is mentioned I will only expand on this one.
My son had chronic yeast from pretty much from birth to 3.5 years old. This included chronic diarrhea, chronic infections, and very low weight gain. At the age of 3.5 we discovered this and treated over 4 yeast infections by the changing of diet, the use of digestive enzymes, probiotics, Immune enhancers, which led us to a chelation protocol.
He no longer has any infections and his stool has normalized and we are maintaining a healthy development.
We are still addressing a few food sensitivities because his immune system is still compromised. We are currently still repairing his gut and chelation seems to be a major factor with the addition to proper nutritional support.
Have you considered looking into the SCD diet we are currently not on this regimen but have learned much from the simple science of SCD. I am only mentioning SCD one of many resources, like I have said in the past, I have seen special diets that have ridded uncontrolled seizers that drugs could not. Also I would like to mention this is much more of a complex issue than diet and do not wish to expand on this on this forum but you are more than welcome to e-mail me privately.
Thanks
Kenny v
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Have thousands of references on detox etc… But again I will only stick to the diet side of healing.
You have ANTI- biotics, which mean (NOT or against)
You have PRO- biotics, which means before precursor or to enhance.
And then you have Macro biotics, which are the actual beginning found only in whole foods or else needs to be supplemented.
Macrobiotics and its healing properties.
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| verdammt |
Posted - 04/18/2005 : 09:49:48
Wilf - Thanks for the offer to send more info, but I'm afraid my brain is more likely to latch onto food allergies, the more I know about them.
Suz - Very interesting post. I've noticed peanut allergies have really come into vogue during the past decade. Every food product seems to contain a warning about possible contact with peanuts. My wife works at a "peanut-free" school where the students and staff are forbidden to bring peanut butter sandwiches into the building. Supposedly, just the smell could trigger a potentially fatal attack. You'd think the stuff was radioactive.
Imagine. The health hazard of secondary peanut breath.
What gives? I ate the stuff every day as a kid. There's nothing wrong with me now...(wink!)
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| Suz |
Posted - 04/18/2005 : 09:15:52
Sorry - I just wanted to add that Sarno's response to me ties in with the theory that the brain latches on to any conditions that are currently "in vogue". One of the big ones is food allergies. Every other person I know is doing some kind of low carb, wheat free or dairy free diet - myself included. How freeing it would be to eat whatever one wants with no restrictions. Obviously junk food doesn't do anyone any good - but to eat wheat, dairy, fruits - any of the healthy foods would be amazing freedom for me. The same kind of freedom as being out of pain. interestingly enough, the yeast problems started at about the same time as the hip pain - 10 years ago. |
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