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| Doxieluver |
Posted - 02/10/2014 : 18:33:46
Hi, I am new to this forum and to Dr. Sarno's books. So glad to have found this forum. I've been suffering badly for four years, with pain in feet, in low back, in neck and arms, iliapsoas muscle and glutes. The pain moves around and hurts terribly. It seems to hurt most in the right abdominal area and right glute, so I had thought it was RSI from driving, (chauffeuring 3 kids around town) with muscles tightening up and pulling my pelvis out of balance and affecting my total alignment. I have tried physical therapy, accupuncture, a spinal specialist, Bowen, Egoscue, myofascial massage, Hannah Somatics, aqua therapy, yoga, and lots of chiropractic adjustments. Since nothing is making this go away I am very open to the idea of it being psychosomatic. I am so tired of trying everything under the sun I can find to no avail, and I'm so tired of all the pain. I've been telling myself over the weekend and today that it is TMS and talking firmly to my brain, and I've been more active than I normally am, have cancelled standing appointments for massage/chiropractic treatments. Still I hurt so much -- how long does it take for the brain to start getting the message? The lack of change in my symptoms is making me doubt myself. If they were letting up I'd be encouraged. How long does it take for things to start easing up? I know everyone is different, but I'd like to hear how long it took for people to notice improvement and how you handled doubt in the interim. Thanks! |
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| Doxieluver |
Posted - 02/11/2014 : 15:45:42
I appreciate the affirmation about getting rid of the torture devices, and that's exactly what they were! After trying to work out my trigger points, which I have lots of, my body had back and blue bruises all over. I looked like I had been punched in the stomach and hit everywhere else. I think this actually made me think, whoa, what am I doing to myself, beating myself up like this to get well! I have realized upon reflection that I do beat myself up psychologically for my imperfections and that this may be a large part of my tms. |
| SteveO |
Posted - 02/11/2014 : 12:42:59
Healing time varies greatly on the need for the pain, degree of separation anxiety, magnitude of fear, and depth of belief in the TMS process (how quickly you can uproot old beliefs and accept that your body is ok).
I've seen that it takes about 6 months to 2 years, Dr. Sopher tells me he feels about 2 to 6 months on average, but the people he sees get to see him, a TMS doc that adds strength to the diagnosis.
You did the right thing by getting rid of all the torture devices in your house, but you don't have to stop massages. A massage is not a placebo, it does exactly what it says it will do, relax and soothe you. You have to lower your tension in all ways, and reduce the negative chatter in your brain.
The fact that you are casting out all the placebo devices means you may heal quicker. But setting a timeframe for healing is the death-knell. Don't corner yourself like that, it adds more pressure and more tension--delaying the process.
Steve |
| kevina74 |
Posted - 02/11/2014 : 12:40:11
Hi Doxieluver, it's called The MindBody Workbook by David Schechter. He's also associated with Dr. Sarno. You can find it on Amazon but only in Kindle format.
I've also tried to find a purely physical explanation, but that's only led me on a wild goose chase that hasn't gotten me anywhere. I think your right about it being an identity of sickness. Our mindset and even our environment seems to foster a sick mentality. It becomes like a crutch after awhile. I think we just have to get to the point where we say ENOUGH! |
| Doxieluver |
Posted - 02/11/2014 : 12:17:21
Thank you both so much for the helpful input. Altherunner, I thought about your question a lot last night. Since I've had this quite a while, I could not at first remember the timeline of what was going on at the time of onset, but after some careful thinking did finally realize some things that were going on at the time that were probably very significant. It helped me a lot to do this, and I plan to journal about them today. Thank you, kevina74, I needed to have someone tell me that this could take awhile and to be patient, that it doesn't mean it's not working. I'm wondering where you found the workbook and what it is called.
Today I went through my house and got rid of my Theracane (for working on trigger points), my massage balls, my back pain dvds, my print-outs of back pain e-books, my huge exercise ball for stretching out my muscles, my trigger point therapy book. It felt like such a relief to chuck all these things. It made me realize how much of my recent identity has been founded upon being sick, and how much time and money I have invested in things and treatments that have led nowhere. It was like I was telling my subconscious mind that I am truly believing that it is TMS. As long as I was seeing those objects in the house all the time, it was as though they were saying, "listen to us, are you sure it isn't physical?" It felt very freeing, plus now I have an empty drawer to put my extra socks in! |
| kevina74 |
Posted - 02/11/2014 : 09:51:47
I'm dealing with similar issues, my groin muscle feels very tight and hard and I think may be contributing to my hip pain. I've asked the same question as you and the answer is it takes time, lots of time. These things didn't develop overnight and they wont be resolved over night either. How long varies from person to person. But while complete recovery will take awhile, you should see some improvement in the mean time. Just hang in there. I'm reading a workbook that says these pains are a distraction to keep us from dealing with underlying emotions. Doubt in itself is a distraction. In dealing with TMS it seems to be the more you want the pain to go away, the further you get from actually getting rid of it. So don't try to rush it, in fact it's best not to even focus on that at all. I also recommend looking up tmswiki. |
| altherunner |
Posted - 02/10/2014 : 19:26:32
have you had any stressful events at or about the time of the onset
of your pain. Mine was worst when my father passed away, but I didn't put the two together for a long time. I had pain that moved around,
and tried a lot of the things that you did, too. |
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