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| plum |
Posted - 08/01/2013 : 07:37:08
Recent posts struck a chord with me and rather than derail Racer's original thread ( http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8704), I thought I'd flag my musings here. It's worth reading Dave's contribution on Racer's thread first because it's relevant.
While enmeshed in our terrible hole of pain, I suspect many of us derive a measure of comfort in our eventual success story. It is a beacon of hope, a dream to cling to during the bleak days. One day, during a relapse, I found myself looking at this a little differently. On the wiki, I searched for advice on coping with a relapse and found this:
http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Relapser%27s_curse_-_there_is_hope,_by_Skizzik
It originates from this site and is penned by Skizzik.
I'd be interested in folks thoughts. Some years ago I had this same facial pain (less intense and of shorter duration but the same, nonetheless), and I *cured* of it during a three week period when something wonderful happened in my life. I didn't read any Sarno, I'd never heard of him. His theories didn't enter my world for a good six or seven years after this *healing*. Skizzik describes the complications of tms knowledge pretty well. It's damn vexing to have beaten this once before but for a return to good form to remain elusive. Ace1, I know, I know but tell me anyway. |
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| eric watson |
Posted - 08/02/2013 : 08:20:15
This is wonderful plum, I can hear your enthusiasm , your strength
Although the set backs will occur
You will start to get better by leaps and bounds then a setback
Then it will be slow and you will be stronger than before ,
some time will pass and then you might have a setback
Then you will come through more quickly and then 1 more setback
Then one day youll be setting there doing your style of soothing
Your mind will wonder in bliss and you'll feel the pain let up
Except this time you did it with your mind,
you controlled the releases.
or you will gradually heal over and over
Then you will know you are healed to the point that
you control the pain instead of it having you
Now I know you practice this and you will be singing
about how you controlled your own recovery with the power of your mind.
We will believe, others will wonder and some will not notice
but you have grown as a part of us,
and we long to see that colorful day
You are to serious not to win, you've sowed on fertile soil
Your success is waiting - just when you begin to get so used to
helping others and using your gift of love to help others-
it will come, we have no other option but to win
Even after the enlightenment, the understanding, the healing
Still from time to time you might even have a setback
You'll notice them less and less till 1 day
The fruit of the tree of wisdom will open her door.....
There's a sweet journey and it only gets better
You will know how you did it- You will know how to heal
You will know how to heal others...
....I love the Story- Its Awesome........
This part is monumental in healing-
Skizzik)- And I think a lot of that has to do with opening up and being "myself"
around others and not so much having a chip on my shoulder "I don't care what they think about me",
but rather if I click socially with you, then I do, if I don't I don't, no hard feelings, no need for approval.
Eric)- In my story I was healed for 10 years after 15 years of Back pain
Then it came back on. Im just like you plum,
when I healed then id never heard of sarno but looking back
I stopped the focus and ignored the pain not giving it
my whole attention anymore and it basically went away
I still had sciatica if I bent over to long or slept wrong
nothing serious, I really didn't notice
it after recovering from Hell
Then on some days while working hard on the construction site
it would flair up to a 1 or 2. Never last long though.
I feared it would come back and then it did.
Except this time I was better prepared, just like you plum
Prepared....
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 08/01/2013 : 16:30:14
Hi plum. I don't think that person ever really cured himself at first. I think it was a placebo which means temporary fix. The lasting healing usually takes a real change and you are aware of the control that you have and what you have done to get better. I do not believe that a real cure happens without you understanding what happened. So don't let relapse be a frustration. You actually want to hear your body's messages and the body does not lie. Just be patient and practice and make periodic assessments to make sure you continue to make some progress. If you don't give up you will make it one day |
| art |
Posted - 08/01/2013 : 14:37:35
Couldn't agree more guys. My sense is that for many TMS is not an illness or a disorder per se, to be gotten over, or to be permanently healed from, but ongoing physical manifestations of emotional states that will likely crop up over and over again in different forms.
Once our body/mind learns to do this, it doesn't forget. It becomes an almost automatic response to stress,or sometimes sadness, which is a form of stress in itself. In this way, we can if we choose begin to look at TMS as a sign that all is not well within.
So I think you have a terrific point plum. The notion that there's an endpoint in all this, a finish line, can ultimately cause trouble when it eventually becomes apparent that it was an illusion...
I think this is also a useful line of thinking when driving ourselves crazy over whether something's real or TMS. While we're fighting that bloody war, nothing seems more important, and the relief we feel when it turns out to be TMS is immense. Trouble is 2 months later, oops, here comes another symptom, and so the whole scenario play out over and over, ad nauseum (and ad exhaustion). In this regard, I think it's healthy to cultivate an attitude of acceptance NO MATTER WHAT IT IS. In that way, if it's TMS it will quickly go away, and if not, we're emotionally equipped to deal with it.
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| gigalos |
Posted - 08/01/2013 : 12:52:16
just some thoughts...
I recently saw a Belgian psych giving a lecture about our modern drive for total success and happiness. He rooted for letting go of this idea. Make your goal smaller, strive for moments of success and happiness only so often, accept that you will be visited with misfortune and sadness once and a while, it's part of normal life. Complete success and happiness is unattainable and will only lead to the opposite.
At the moment I see tms as a companion. As long I have a little background pain here or there, I know there is stuff I have to deal with. I guess the work is never really over. I think one is recovered or cured as soon as someone knows how to react on any pain or discomforts. Once any pain suddenly comes back with a vengeance, knowing the mindbody mechanism and having beaten it once should give enough confidence and knowledge to beat it again, maybe by retracing my steps and search for what I have "forgotten" to work on. Maybe I am blessed for not having had the book cure, as it forces me to keep developing myself and be better able to help myself when any trouble rises in the future.
knocking on wood :)
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| icelikeaninja |
Posted - 08/01/2013 : 12:04:43
Plum,
This resonated deeply with me.
I guess it is the perfectionist mentality that I want to get better quick and also help others get better quick.
My tms has dulled down considerably and its surreal, I feel like that isnt even happening but I am getting better.
I am putting to much pressure on myself to get better so I can help others more so than myself.
Thanks for posting this.
**Sure I can lay down on a bed of nails and not have pain but why am I having back pain when laying down on a soft mattress? |
| plum |
Posted - 08/01/2013 : 08:35:09
The joys of smartphones. Oddly the end of my post is awol. Basically I closed with a consideration of the success story as one more fiction in the narration of perfectionism. Given our tendency to somaticise, is success a moving target? Or is it best defined by equanimity or such?
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