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| mala |
Posted - 07/09/2013 : 20:45:08
Want to know honestly how many people here are on some kind of medication short & long term. Is it possible to be honest about this. Many people are writing about their emotions & their pain but not many especially those that have been successful ever mention the importance of medication & how they feel whether it has helped or not.
As for myself, I am not on anything & I am even very reluctant to take tylenol for the pain which I think is silly coz sometimes you just needs to get rid of the pain quickly. Prolonging pain is not good .
Thx all
Mala
"It is more important to know what sort of person has a disease than to know
what sort of disease a person has." ~ Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
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| Bugbear |
Posted - 07/16/2013 : 06:11:30
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[i]Originally posted by tennis tom
There may be no "off" switch for TMS since it's part of the HUMAN CONDITION--only a VOLUME CONTROL. Maybe it's time to take another trip down the Cali coast.
Think my volume control needs adjusting then. Today I am fighting off some nasty Nocebos that I was hit with yesterday, some involving meds.
Yup, another trip to Cali is booked for the end of the year. Will be down south for over two weeks after a quick flit to Utah. Something to look forward to anyway. This is good medication. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 07/15/2013 : 11:51:24
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Originally posted by Bugbear
Thanks, Tom. There is always something going on with me emotionally. Wish I could locate the off switch.
There may be no "off" switch for TMS since it's part of the HUMAN CONDITION--only a VOLUME CONTROL. Maybe it's time to take another trip down the Cali coast.
Cheers,
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| Bugbear |
Posted - 07/15/2013 : 11:06:47
[quote]Originally posted by tennis tom
Hi Bugbear,
Sorry about your TMS attack, as you probably know think about what is going on emotionally, (see the Rahe-Holmes list).
Thanks, Tom. There is always something going on with me emotionally. Wish I could locate the off switch.
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| EileenTM |
Posted - 07/13/2013 : 19:23:44
I have no enzyme 2D6 in my liver (posted about this before). It is a genetic inherited condition. So even if I wanted to take meds, I cannot. I don't metabolize most of them.
It may create problems in the future if I get a real illness.
Am considering becoming a Christian Scientist.
Also use tms theory to treat most things.
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| chickenbone |
Posted - 07/13/2013 : 10:35:55
There is kind of a difficult issue here. On the one hand, medications can be regarded as a "crutch". This means that, if you take medications to relieve symptoms, that you may be less likely to address the true cause of the symptoms, which is psychological issues. In this way, medications can inhibit your recovery by depending on them too much. When we don't have symptoms, we tend to forget the true cause of our symptoms and be less likely to be motivated to address them.
On the other hand, we also know that pain tends to metastasize through the brain rather quickly. Pain alone can cause psychological problems by increasing fear and anxiety, causing an endless cycle of pain - fear - pain. The deadly cycle starts with the combination of FEAR and PAIN. When we are in pain, even real physical pain, we tend to become obsessed with it. So for this reason, it is often a good idea to take some medication when you need it to avoid the constant obsessing about it. This can also break the TMS cycle.
So I think we all have to find our own balance between these 2 extremes. This applies to psychotropic meds also. Of course a lot depends on what you really want to do: live with TMS or get over TMS. I believe that people trying to "get over" TMS are being unrealistic. You must learn to live with it before you can even begin to "get over" it. I think this is what a lot of people miss about TMS, that it is more of a "unconscious personality" than a true disease or disorder. I believe that TMS episodes will always return given the right circumstances.
I also think that the rigid and often self-abusive attitude of not taking any meds is also part of the perfectionist, goodist TMS personality. "Oh no meds for me, I can tough it out" our overdeveloped superegos tell us. Well, for me, telling this perfectionist superego to "go straight to hell" has been a big part of my cure. This is probably where a lot of our symptoms are coming from anyway. |
| mala |
Posted - 07/12/2013 : 04:35:32
This reply by MatthewNJ is pretty much how I feel too. its taken from another link
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7935
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Cookie,
I will weigh in on this in that I have been succesful with TMS. Pain medication was an integral, and I believe necessary part of my recovery from the relaspes I had in 2008. This worked for me, I am neither promoting it or suggesting you do it. This is up to you and your doctor. I was already 3 years into my therapy with Dr. Evans when this pain episode occurred. I was in such pain that I could not think psychological. 10 on a scale of 10 constantly. Dr. Sarno had confirmed this pain episode was not physical. I was already seeing Dr. Evans. So I doubled my visits with Dr. Evans and saw a pain specialist to manage the pain meds (first I was on 7, 10mg percocets /day and then a 75mg Fentanyl pain patch). Dr. Evans taught me to say a mantra before taking the medication. "I am taking this medication to treat the symptoms, I am working with Dr. Evans to solve the true cause of the pain".
So, my 2 cents is, in the right circumstances, used appropriatly pain medication iS an appropriate part of TMS therapy.
BTW, in the last 4 years or so of his career, Dr. Sarno was prescribing pain meds in certain circumstances.
Matthew
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Mala
"It is more important to know what sort of person has a disease than to know
what sort of disease a person has." ~ Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
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| chickenbone |
Posted - 07/11/2013 : 19:02:24
The only one of my TMS symptoms that prompts me to take any type of drugs is my sleeplessness. I do sometimes take Tylenol for real pain (like the tooth pain I am having right now because of root canal). I have had trouble falling asleep ever since I can remember, about 2 years old. I didn't take anything at all until I was 39 when my first husband passed away. Then, for almost 20 years, I took a very low dose of a drug called "Triavil" that is a combination of an antidepressant (amitripitline) and a very old anti-psychotoc drug called perphenazine. During this time, I had no problems at all sleeping, no side effects, felt great. Then we moved to Panama where this drug was not available. Since I could get amitriptiline without a prescription, I began just taking that, but had a lot of trouble falling asleep. I then started taking a low dose of Zolpidem. This worked well most of the time. For some reason, the sleeplessness returned after I had my parathyroid surgery. Now I order the perphenazine from another country with a prescription from a doctor in Panama. I still take a miniscule 1/4 pill of Zolpidem if I am awake for more than 2 hours as a placebo.
I never, in 25 years even came close to becoming addicted to any drugs or increased the dosages. In fact, since I have been working on my TMS, I have been able to further reduce the dosages. Nor have I ever had any side effects. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 07/11/2013 : 09:53:57
Hi Bugbear,
Sorry about your TMS attack, as you probably know think about what is going on emotionally, (see the Rahe-Holmes list). Here's a link to a story from the Wiki about meds by a doctor:
http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/My_Insomnia_Story,_by_Harold_Goodmanhttp://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/My_Insomnia_Story,_by_Harold_Goodman |
| Bugbear |
Posted - 07/11/2013 : 09:07:06
Honestly? I am currently on a cocktail of prescription and over the counter drugs for a relapse of sciatica that has not subsided in nearly two months. The other day my husband rushed home from work after I sent him an SOS message. He arranged for a home visit by a local GP and nearly rang for an ambulance due to my screaming. I feel like I have taken one giant leap backwards and am quite ashamed. I hate taking meds but I think I would jump out the window if the pain gets any worse. I have just started therapy but this certainly won't bring about a fast cure. I wish I could get by on the odd Tylenol equivalent. |
| plum |
Posted - 07/10/2013 : 01:39:01
I'm not on any meds of any kind. If the pain gets too much, I'll occasionally take killers. |
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