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| forestfortrees |
Posted - 05/14/2013 : 13:59:43
This weekend my girlfriend and I are heading down to New York. It's been a long time since we've been able to go on a vacation, and I'm particularly excited, because I will be presenting my story at the training program, When Stress Causes Pain - A Master Class in the Diagnosis And Treatment of Psychophysiologic Disorders! I am part of a fantastic training staff, with TMS practitioners Frances Sommer Anderson, PhD, SEP , Neal Kathleen May, PsyD, Ira Rashbaum, MD, Eric Sherman, PsyD, and Jeffrey Wentzel, PhD. I’ll be talking about the relapses I’ve had, and how I’ve used “thinking psychologically” to overcome them. I would really love to get feedback on this presentation before Sunday, so I’ll be presenting what I have prepared in the form of a mini-webinar this Thursday, May 16th, at 9pm Eastern Time. If you’re free, I’d really love to hear your thoughts and suggestions as I value and respect your opinions. The presentation itself will be about 35 minutes, and then we’ll all talk.
Connection details are as follows:
To connect via your computer (Fuze Meeting), go to http://fuze.me/19872250 and follow the instructions from there.
To connect using your phone, dial 1 646 583 7415 and when prompted enter the pin code 21558901.
As I will be using my webcam, I suggest connecting via your computer so you can see me while I’m talking.
Visit http://go.tmswiki.org/connect for more detailed information on how to connect, as well as instructions on how to install Fuze Meeting on your computer.
Hope to see you there,
Forest
My Video Success Story
www.thankyoudrsarno.org
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| forestfortrees |
Posted - 05/17/2013 : 11:27:05
Hi Barbara,
This time we did not record the presentation, nor will the presentation on Sunday be recorded. My main success story is linked to below. If you want to know more about the relapses I had, send me a private message and we can set up a phone call sometime. I would love to chat with you.
My Video Success Story
www.thankyoudrsarno.org
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| Barbara Carroll |
Posted - 05/17/2013 : 04:30:47
Can u post the presentation?
Thank u
Barbara |
| forestfortrees |
Posted - 05/16/2013 : 08:27:07
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Originally posted by Ace1
Dear forest I just want to personally thank you for all your doing for tms sufferers. I don't think there is one person who has done more than you. I'm sure your efforts will be rewarded by the spread of the knowledge of tms bc of what you've done.
Thank you all for the wonderful compliments. I owe so much of my own recovery to the online community, so I thank all of you for posting and sharing your stories.
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Originally posted by plum
Forest, I'd love you address something that falls under the rubric of tms superstitions. In scanning the archives I noticed people mention a reluctance to post a success story for fear it would promote a relapse. A couple of posters here recently have experienced a version of this in that they proclaim a symptom gone only for it to rear it's ugly head again or invite a symptom imperative. I've noticed in myself a wariness to joyfully proclaim good days as if in doing so I invite a fall. It's happened before and I have tracked and tacked down some of the reasons, primarily doubt that this can't last, coupled with fear of pain returning.
There is always a tendency to be nervous about saying you are recovered, but isn't that the old TMS personality coming back out? We are never good enough until we never have any pain ever again. I tend to view that as setting the same unrealistic expectations that drive our perfectionism. I have always felt that recovering from TMS doesn't involve what your level of symptoms are. Instead it is about how you respond to your symptoms. Do you recognize them as benign, and no longer let them keep you from living your life? If so, you are recovered.
I also think a lot of it has to do with our level of acceptance. If you think that you are not yet recovered, you are still thinking physical, because with TMS there is really nothing we need to recover from. As I mentioned in this thread, and what I will be talking about tonight, I have had new symptoms pop up, but that doesn't mean I am not recovered. I am recovered because when these new symptoms pop up, I know what is causing them and I begin to think psychologically. I do not let them prevent me from living my life. What would happen if you simply told yourself every day that you are recovered? How would that change your outlook, and how you go about your day?
My Video Success Story
www.thankyoudrsarno.org
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| dgreen97 |
Posted - 05/15/2013 : 22:06:31
hey forest,
this is dabatross i frequent both tmswiki and this forum and i see you do too. Is When Stress Causes Pain - A Master Class in the Diagnosis And Treatment of Psychophysiologic Disorders the thing Alan Gordon is working on for the wiki? He showed me a part of it and it was really good cant wait for that to come out.
Id like to second what Plum said:
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Forest, I'd love you address something that falls under the rubric of tms superstitions. In scanning the archives I noticed people mention a reluctance to post a success story for fear it would promote a relapse. A couple of posters here recently have experienced a version of this in that they proclaim a symptom gone only for it to rear it's ugly head again or invite a symptom imperative. I've noticed in myself a wariness to joyfully proclaim good days as if in doing so I invite a fall. It's happened before and I have tracked and tacked down some of the reasons, primarily doubt that this can't last, coupled with fear of pain returning.
I too have had this superstition even though I'm not cured yet. I thought it was the only one but apparently a lot of people have this fear that if they admit they're healed, the pain will come back and I've had this exact same fear. Im really excited to listen to your talk tomorrow about the relapses (not excited that you had relapses but I've actually wanted to hear how you overcame them for a long time). Coming from somebody who has dealt with TMS for so long and has had multiple relapses that have been overcome is very inspirational thank you for doing this.
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| art |
Posted - 05/15/2013 : 18:59:40
Forest,
Good luck on this. You do great work. As to relapses, I’m thinking that might be the wrong word, at least for me. What I mean to say is for me anyway, psychophysiologic disorder, or psychosomatic pain, (I’m glad to see a shift away from the in my opinion outmoded “TMS”), is a lifelong battle. This isn’t as dark as it sounds because I have the tools now to handle it.
I think for many of us psychophysiologic disorder is likely to be a chronic illness. Fortunately, it’s a chronic illness that can be well managed. When my right knee starts throbbing and aching for a specific example after a few months of no pain at all, I don’t think of it as a relapse but a recurrence. Maybe it’s a small point, but thought I’d mention it. |
| catmac |
Posted - 05/15/2013 : 13:30:02
Unfortunately I wont be available either but think this is fantastic. Your posts helped me so much in the past.
thanks Forest
cat |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 05/15/2013 : 10:41:41
Dear forest I just want to personally thank you for all your doing for tms sufferers. I don't think there is one person who has done more than you. I'm sure your efforts will be rewarded by the spread of the knowledge of tms bc of what you've done. |
| plum |
Posted - 05/15/2013 : 06:12:33
Forest, I'd love you address something that falls under the rubric of tms superstitions. In scanning the archives I noticed people mention a reluctance to post a success story for fear it would promote a relapse. A couple of posters here recently have experienced a version of this in that they proclaim a symptom gone only for it to rear it's ugly head again or invite a symptom imperative. I've noticed in myself a wariness to joyfully proclaim good days as if in doing so I invite a fall. It's happened before and I have tracked and tacked down some of the reasons, primarily doubt that this can't last, coupled with fear of pain returning.
Aside from this observation, thoughts on tackling it include something chickenbone wrote about. Here's the link, but I stress I'm not healed and this is a supposition on my part. I'm interested to hear what folks and especially dear chickenbone herself make of it.
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8501 |
| forestfortrees |
Posted - 05/14/2013 : 21:44:59
Thanks, Plum! Your kind words always really brighten my day. The end of the semester is always a little tough on me because of the crush of work, and you make me feel good. It's a shame you can't make it, but perhaps we can connect some other time.
I hope that others can make it as well. I'm looking forward to chatting with folks at the end, as I'm really interested in hearing what people have to say.
Are there any important points about relapses and thinking psychologically that people suggest I should make sure to cover?
Forest
My Video Success Story
www.thankyoudrsarno.org
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| plum |
Posted - 05/14/2013 : 14:09:16
Forest, this is fabulous news and a celebration of all the healing and hope you've inspired. While I doubt I'll be available to tune in, I send you my very best wishes. I'm pleased as punch and so proud of you. |
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