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| plum |
Posted - 04/09/2013 : 14:04:23
Lest we forget the delicious reason we're all here...
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Au4QnLXvBIM&feature=youtube_gdata_player&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAu4QnLXvBIM%26feature%3Dyoutube_gdata_player
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| MainEventMike |
Posted - 04/13/2013 : 12:47:17
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 04/13/2013 : 11:48:45
Actually it was just 2 posts in the beginning that mentioned the signs, the rest was just explaining back and forth why we did it. I'll still take part of the group hug though. |
| gigalos |
Posted - 04/13/2013 : 09:55:29
Dear o dear,
How did you guys manage to spend two pages on any possible TMS signs the guy in the video may be showing or not??
I mailed the guy in the video and he told me had to operate the night before.... yes, that is a lie, but SO WHAT?! It all diverts the attention from the clearly positive goal Plum had with this thread.
I don't want to add much, because it leads us nowhere. I suggest a virtual group hug. If you don't want to join it, tough luck, I am hugging you as you read this.  |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 16:00:14
Dr Robins appears to have evolved beyond pure Sarno for better or worse as he is now an enthusiastic advocate for faster EFT. |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 15:31:00
I understand what your saying but I don't agree with it that its inconsequential. If what we said here breaks your heart, then it would be to your benefit to decondition yourself to things like that bc I'm sure you'll hear people say much worse. I think his message is good and helpful but I don't think he is saying anything different than what is in dr sarno's books. This isn't bad, but I can't see this message being the key message that brings someone to a cure. |
| plum |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 14:44:39
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Originally posted by Ace1
Yes plum as you get better at it seeing the strain in your behavior, you tend to see it clearly on others. Not to judge but you can just see it. It doesn't make that person on the video any less as a human, we all suffer to some degree with tms. Like I said before, health is a spectrum. Would you think any less of a person with a tumor on their face? Of course not. To point it out on an educational forum is what balto and I though might be helpful. If it is not helpful to you that's ok, maybe you'll see it one day and maybe you won't. Different things presented on this forum will resonate with some more than others. See if this person did not see the strained behavior in his eyes and recognize it as another manifestation of tms he would not work on it and thus there would be no more progress attained. You have to use symptoms and dysfunction of the body as indicators that your not quite there yet.
I'm not saying I don't see it, but that I think it is petty to point it out when his words have huge healing potential for others. We could nitpick all day and it brings us full circle. While I understand what you say, for many people here that focus on inconsequential detail is the very reason they have tms. Your 'strain' is someone else's heartbreak. I respect your point, can you see mine? |
| alix |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 14:36:33
I really liked his message though. It is really important for pelvic pain sufferers to see this. Many urologists like him diagnose pudendal nerve entrapment, prostatitis, vulvodynia and other pathologies.
And here comes a urologist from Kaiser Permanente (a giant mainstream integrated managed care organization) that says that it may be psychosomatic. |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 08:38:48
Yes plum as you get better at it seeing the strain in your behavior, you tend to see it clearly on others. Not to judge but you can just see it. It doesn't make that person on the video any less as a human, we all suffer to some degree with tms. Like I said before, health is a spectrum. Would you think any less of a person with a tumor on their face? Of course not. To point it out on an educational forum is what balto and I though might be helpful. If it is not helpful to you that's ok, maybe you'll see it one day and maybe you won't. Different things presented on this forum will resonate with some more than others. See if this person did not see the strained behavior in his eyes and recognize it as another manifestation of tms he would not work on it and thus there would be no more progress attained. You have to use symptoms and dysfunction of the body as indicators that your not quite there yet. |
| balto |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 07:22:36
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Originally posted by plum
Thanks Gail. He seems kinda quirky to me and I have an affection for that.
Maybe I have a blindspot, maybe missing petals don't bother me much (loves me, loves me not...), maybe I appreciate that nature is not perfect and thank god for that. If I used eyestrain as a benchmark both John Sarno and Claire Weekes would go down the chute.
You are a saint Plum, your mind only focus on people's good. I have to admit I am far from that, I can't help from not notice bugger on people's face. I guess after learning about tms/anxiety I have focus on identifying all the strain and stress in my life and try to elliminate them, can't helped when I notice strain and stress on other people.
It is like an exterminator keep looking out for bugs every where he goes. It is like a home inspector keep looking for defect in any house he visits...
I don't try to put anyone down, I just share what I have noticed.
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| eric watson |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 06:17:50
plum the video has nothing to do with strain-
that was just aces and baltos observations
as you know eric robbins is a powerhouse
in the got it together world
you know hes speaking right and that's what matters
he adds sarnos healing therapy with
fastereft and gets phenominal results
that's our look on it my sweet- learn more from Dr. Eric Robbins
hes really very educational
he adds Dr Gay Hendricks teachings too
a powerful teacher |
| plum |
Posted - 04/12/2013 : 06:04:02
Thanks Gail. He seems kinda quirky to me and I have an affection for that.
Maybe I have a blindspot, maybe missing petals don't bother me much (loves me, loves me not...), maybe I appreciate that nature is not perfect and thank god for that. If I used eyestrain as a benchmark both John Sarno and Claire Weekes would go down the chute. |
| gailnyc |
Posted - 04/11/2013 : 18:21:51
I love this guy! Thanks, plum. |
| plum |
Posted - 04/11/2013 : 14:02:25
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Originally posted by RageSootheRatio
Just wanted to thank you plum, for bringing this video to my attention. Found it quite helpful, actually !  RSR
Thank you sweetheart.
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| RageSootheRatio |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 17:18:44
Just wanted to thank you plum, for bringing this video to my attention. Found it quite helpful, actually ! RSR |
| balto |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 09:11:51
I just thought it is funny Plum, nothing more. The guy is a great guys, no need for me to make fun of him. :)
Imagine doctor Sarno went on TV and talk about tms and wearing a back brace. Imagine the Dalai Lama cursing at some guys who accidently pour hot water on him while giving a talk about compassion. I guess I'm just having a weird sense of humor.
anyway, I think what Ace talked about is very true. It helps if we can recognize the strains inside us. I often monitor my muscle strain and find way to release them. I sometime can see my body tensed up, or my stomach feel sour, or my eyes squinting... I will find way to relax and release those strain. I will try to find out what trigger those strain and try to solve them or elliminate them. Over time it became a skill that is very helpful to me.
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 07:01:37
Sorry forgot to address the last point. I agree that judging others for the fun of it can definetly can lead to a strain and it is good to look past other people's flaws and anger and to forgive. It is however very helpful to see the strain in yourself and help use the affirmations to help change your behavior. Using an example of someone with a strained behavior like the guy on this video is to help show us what it is like. Kind of like the pictures of various illnesses in medical books. |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 06:53:58
Dear plum, it would only be a strain if it was bothering us. I want to make it clear this was not to make fun of the guy. I think balto was making the point that things didnt seem right for him to have that much strain and to be a mindbody teacher. We don't know him. We have no reason to think less of him. He actually seems like a very nice man with a good message. The point is this is a form of the type of strain we are discussing, but in this case this involves the mans eyes. This is illustrative of points i made in the past. If we are discussing how to recover and an observation is made that is independent of the person himself, it is for understanding not to bash. Like a missing petal on a flower, you say that because it is true, not for other reasons. The flower with the missing petal would be used to contrast it to the flower with all its petals. This would be illustrative to someone who has just seen a flower for the first time. Put in this way, it cannot be a strain to say that. I think most people who would have seen the video would have thought the same thing but not thought much about it. For most people their strain is not that evident as the man on this video, so it is good to see a strong case of it to give you a sense. One of my keys mentions to possibly video tape yourself so you can see it in yourself. |
| plum |
Posted - 04/10/2013 : 03:18:41
Repeatedly pointing out strain in others seems like a kind of strain in itself. If nothing else it comes across as a judgement laced with perfectionism, "you're not good enough."
It's not that others don't see what you see, it's that they look beyond it or as Louise Hay affirms "I see with love and joy."
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| balto |
Posted - 04/09/2013 : 19:40:13
either you misread or my attempt at humor failed. Either way, no big deal.
I'm in sale for most of my life and believe it or not people judged you by how you look all the time, whether you like it or not.
I can't believe we wasting time talking about this. 
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| pspa123 |
Posted - 04/09/2013 : 19:32:08
Sure you did balto you compared him to a policeman that couldnt shoot. Or a taxi driver who didnt know where he was going. I read that as saying, in my opinion this man isn.t worthy of being listened to. Apologies if i misread your intent. |
