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| Sylvia |
Posted - 03/24/2013 : 05:03:40
I need your advice. But of course what you write will guide folks for years to come.
I will be able to pay for some therapy soon. (will be finding cheaper housing)
I have had completely disabling CFS/Teeumass for 25 years, unable to work. It is time for therapy to help me get over on this and change. So far the work I do alone with teeumass has not been the full treatment.
What do I want a therapist to do?
Do I say that I want a therapist to keep me being emotionally honest, call me on every defense, and have a belief that a psychosomatic disorder is the cause of CFS? Or what do I say?
How do I interview therapists in my neck of the woods so I don't waste money and time?
Thank you. |
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| Sylvia |
Posted - 03/29/2013 : 08:08:58
Here are the two therapists that skype recommended by Dr. Schubiner recommended: Alan Gordon and Derek Sapico |
| eric watson |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 18:24:35
Sylvia- Eric watson, I would like to know more about your life coaching for tms.
Eric- you said it- phone coaching and e mails
not everyone is into tms healing but its the
complete way ya know I've learnt a system
that works but there's lots of styles
I feel as if I can know your personality and you are trusting then I can change negative charges you may have,
this is how I myself maintained a healing ya know
I think it works well with technologies and ill ask you about them.
then by your belief system we can build a plan to a cure
its all in sarnos book- sometimes reading in between the lines and widening the search accommodate a healing- and its all safe. trust is the factor.
you tell me nothing of what's bothering you-
I will ask you to think of it though-
if its huge we start at the tentacles
I point you in the right direction if your lost
12 yrs.' as a faith healer then I learned
in the last year how to teach others to heal themselves
im happy to be healed and im helping combined with
forest -steve- ace- tom and everyone else that has been healed
building the sarno legacy and I haven't forgot Nicole
now if you want to see wall plagues- a preacher plague with probably a hundred healing I can tell you
stories of and make home visits too
not that we would just saying
and close to 20 cures so far in tms healing therapy so im doing
good and feel powerful in my teachings
you don't have to be spiritual, the preaching days are behind me
I was called here to help ya know- but as we all
know believing the process can be a beast- and if you already got
most of the understanding down its that much easier
its only been about 9 months now since the scales fell from my eyes
I like to hear the thank yous as we all do when we hear a voice say I haven't hurt today.
a life coach certificate from nlp and
healing stories from tms successors is my story
im currently working with a friend that has healed and he's 82
when we first met he was lost-
after 1 month he is doing more than anyone on his block
other than a lifetime in the helps, id say im qualified ya know.
oh and two year psychology major even though
its been a life time hobby of mine
I have most this in my bio- I am a person that coachs
im not a Dr, Ace and Nicole or Dr alexander
ive just studied more hours than Thomas Edison
on healing the mind to heal the body.
then the scales fell that's all....
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| Dr James Alexander |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 16:14:50
Sylvia- I'd contact the Coherence therapy website and ask them directly (their directory has been in the process of being made for some time now!). I cant see any reason why Skype would not work for many therapeutic approaches (the only exception i would say is EMDR- i think this has to be in person). Good luck.
James |
| Sylvia |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 14:10:58
Hey Eric,
I know you post more on the TMSwiki forum. So I went and joined up and I'm gonna post there now. |
| alix |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 13:51:08
Sylvia, I would try to call or email Bruce himself. He is in California I believe.
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| plum |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 13:42:39
He's my friend and is doing what good friends do.
I didn't know he was a coach until yesterday and I smile at the revelation because his way is natural, warm and from the heart. Too many healers and therapists let their head drive the show. Eric is pure love. |
| Sylvia |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 13:36:06
quote:
Originally posted by plum
Eric is a beautiful, beautiful soul.
I have taken his hand and am touched by his love and healing.
Hey plum, do you mean he is your coach? |
| Sylvia |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 13:33:16
Thanks Alix. But that website doesn't have a referral list, it says We are currently assembling this directory... Any other thoughts?
Yes I have Dr. Schubiners class. I think the ISTDP is excellent but I couldn't explain/describe it to you really. The book doesn't cost that much if you wanted to buy it and read it. I have also posted on his forum for the skype therapists that I guess does the ISTDP. So I'm waiting on the good Doc's response. Any therapist he'd recommend I know I can trust. |
| plum |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 13:32:41
Eric is a beautiful, beautiful soul.
I have taken his hand and am touched by his love and healing. |
| alix |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 13:22:58
Sylvia, I would contact Bruce Ecker. His website is http://www.coherencetherapy.org/
Also, were you the one doing the Schubiner program? If yes, what was your impression of the ISTDP (sp?) therapy Dr.Schubiner recommends?
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| Sylvia |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 12:17:17
Tennis Tom thanks for those links. The therapists are not near Oklahoma for me.
I agree Alix, that's why I want to make sure my money is well spent with the right person. I can't find any list for Coherence therapists on a google search. Have you got one?
Thank you Nicole, I will have to check out your website.
eric watson, I would like to know more about your life coaching for tms.
Thank you James for your most thorough answer. Can you hook me up with a website that lists Coherence therapists? Your advise for how to find/work with any other therapist is invaluable.
What do you all feel on skype therapeutic relationships, just as good as in person or a distant second? |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 03/25/2013 : 09:37:39
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/ppd/Find_a_TMS_Doctor_or_Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
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| NicoleSachsLCSW |
Posted - 03/24/2013 : 21:14:49
Hi Sylvia,
Where are you located? Have you visited the TMS Wiki site that Forest runs? I know that TMS providers are listed there throughout the country, and perhaps the world... I think that the most important function of therapy is to make each person feel heard and comfortable. To that end, if a therapist is open minded and able to embrace the concept of TMS, you have a good chance of feeling understood.
Always happy to help if I can. Feel free to contact me through my website.
Best,
Nicole
quote:
Originally posted by Sylvia
I need your advice. But of course what you write will guide folks for years to come.
I will be able to pay for some therapy soon. (will be finding cheaper housing)
I have had completely disabling CFS/Teeumass for 25 years, unable to work. It is time for therapy to help me get over on this and change. So far the work I do alone with teeumass has not been the full treatment.
What do I want a therapist to do?
Do I say that I want a therapist to keep me being emotionally honest, call me on every defense, and have a belief that a psychosomatic disorder is the cause of CFS? Or what do I say?
How do I interview therapists in my neck of the woods so I don't waste money and time?
Thank you.
Embrace your Truth, Create your Life. |
| eric watson |
Posted - 03/24/2013 : 12:22:35
alix your reading some good books man
Sylvia I know your talking to the Drs above
I might get ridiculed for this
but im a life coach not just a contractor
and I know we all have to be approached from different
ways- if you'd send me an e mail we could talk
I've always liked your post Sylvia and you really make
great ideas - let me know, bless you
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| alix |
Posted - 03/24/2013 : 11:43:40
Sylvia, I realize that the question was to Dr.Alexander and Nicole. I still would like to chime in. I had psychotherapy with a CBT therapist at a pain clinic (that had never heard of Sarno and thought that TMS was a "weird" idea) and psychotherapy with Don Dubin a TMS psychotherapist.
In both cases it was all nice and fluffy feel good stuff. What was completely missing IMHO was the will to "push" me. To destabilize me and to make me get out of my comfort zone.
I just finished the Bruce Ecker book on Coherence Therapy and I believe that would have been much more productive.
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| Dr James Alexander |
Posted - 03/24/2013 : 05:45:42
Sylvia- not all therapists are the same, both in terms of what they offer, and also in terms of the kinds of people they are. As it is help with TMS you are wanting, my suggestion is to firstly see if you can find one that is TMS aware- does TMS Help have a way of locating TMS therapists in your area? I suspect TMS Wiki does, so use either of these forums as a first option.
Next option- if you feel that your TMS is trauma related (and trauma does not necessarily mean those in which your survival was threatened), then my person preference would be to seek an EMDR therapist (begin by looking for the practitioner list on the EMDR Institute website).
If you feel that your TMS is perhaps not traumatic event related (but could be related to what is often referred to as 'developmental traumas', which includes situations like a kid growing up without adequate love, attention, affirmation etc- not that an overt action of abuse happened to them, but more so what didnt happen for them- then (personally) i'd look for a therapist who practices Coherence Therapy (they have a website too).
Now, these are just my personal preferences based on my experiences. There are obviously other approaches to therapy which seem to work, e.g brief psychoanalytic therapy, Gestalt, NLP, etc- but with these other ones, i would be wanting to know up front that the therapist is TMS savvy, ie. i wouldnt make any assumptions about that with these other therapy approaches. If they are TMS savvy, excellent- i'd say they have a good chance of helping you. If they are not TMS savvy, you should be able to detect this fairly early on given your own state of knowledge.
The reason why i wouldnt drill an EMDR therapist or Coherence Therapy practitioner in advance in the same way is that either of these therapies are likely to be helpful with TMS (with either traumatic events history, or developmental traumas respectively) regardless of whether they are TMS savvy or not- the nature of the therapies themselves will ensure that they are likely to be helpful. With the other types of therapies, if they are not TMS savvy, there is the chance that the therapy may not be helpful with TMS. In which case, the kind of questions to ask them are their notions of any connection between emotional pain and physical pain? (they may be thinking along the same lines, but dont call it TMS, or have never heard of the term before). Are they using a depth-psychology approach, or do they think it all has to do with thoughts and behaviours? (this would suggest a pure cognitive behavioural approach which may be useful and helpful for some things, but in my opinion, not for TMS).
And finally, therapy is a very personal thing. Regardless of whether the type of therapy ticks all the right boxes or not, there has to be a good matching between who you are and who they are- trust and understanding is very important. So, you need to be guided by your own gut instincts in this one.
These are my personal views, and i believe they are based on reasonable grounds. But, of course, everyone will have a different view based on their experiences and observations. Hope this is helpful.
James |
