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| njoy |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 00:22:02
I've had eye trouble all my life starting with childhood myopia which I knew, age six, was related to a refusal to see what was going on around me. I LOVED my myopia, frankly.
About 7 years ago, age-related changes meant I could no longer read constantly so I decided to have laser surgery. I knew going in that I might be making a big mistake because I still didn't actually want to see. Right, I developed a 1 in 10,000 complication which meant my eyes didn't heal for 10 months. Finally, they did, so I promptly developed cataracts which have slowly worsened and may not be operable because of worry that the surgeries won't heal. And they may not, either, which the docs blame on my type 2 diabetes even though I have had no other problems healing.
So, people, I may have really overdone the tms this time. I know my motivation has always been feeling safe in the sense that I love the idea that I can always take my glasses off and not see a thing. I don't recall any horrifically bad things happening to me (it would have been as a small child) but the feeling that I need to be ABLE to block my sight is very strong.
In brief:
a) Part of me doesn't want to see the world as it is (it makes me sick with fear and despair at times); conversely I love to travel and prefer third world countries;
b) I do want to be able to read and use the computer which is clearly busy work to distract myself from a).
Whaddaya think?
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"It's worth considering that tms is not a treatment but rather an unfolding of the self, and a way of living as an emotionally aware and engaged soul." Plum |
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| balto |
Posted - 03/14/2013 : 08:31:35
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Originally posted by Ace1
Ok balto, your far sighted. You need to practice reading close up, start first with larger letters and bring the book or whatever closer with time, then use smaller letters. Try practicing reading when your out without your glasses. You will see that your mind needs to be in control and realaxed in order to be able to make out the letters. Never stare at the letters, shift your eyes around the letters and blink and breath a lot and you will be able to make some progress.
I will try this, thanks Ace1.
Glasses are cheap but it is very inconvience when you forget it in tha car.
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| njoy |
Posted - 03/14/2013 : 06:10:08
Thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate them and will reread this thread often, letting wisdom unfold.
Balto, I did the Bates thing many years ago but since I really don't want to see it didn't have much chance of helping.
All1Spirit - all true but I've had quite a few decades to ponder my eye problems and I really think it's primarily tms.
Plum - you are a true poet. I love reading your posts. I've researched a lot about natural cures for cataracts and have tried Dusty Miller, for one. Couldn't make myself use it, though. Afraid it might work, I suppose.
One thing I've found helpful is Vitamin A (the oil in capsules) which I started using for "dry eye". I smeared it into my eyes quite often until my eye doc cheerily announced that my cataracts hadn't grown at all in six months. So, I quit. Ridiculous, I know. Do I want to know WHY I feel this strongly about not wanting to see? No, I don't want to. Scares me. Don't know if I'd go as far as "unimaginable horror" but close. Probably something that wouldn't scare someone over a year old but still ...
I have a very difficult time controlling my type 2. Tms, probably, lol.
I do agree that I could probably beat all this but I don't seem to want to.
I'll check out Romancing the Shadow. Gotta love that shadow stuff.
"If it's digging deeper you want I have my spade to hand." So far, I've always been ready to do this.
You really are sweet.
Ace1 - Did Bates for months with fair steadfastness but it was no match for my unconscious mind. Both my kids brought home notes for school in grade one that said their teachers thought they needed glasses. I flatly refused to take them to be tested and just kept them home for a week. They both grew up w/o glasses until my daughter was about 21. Her eye doc phoned and said "There's nothing wrong with her eyes but she comes in every day to beg me for a prescription." He finally gave her plain glass lenses as a placebo, I suppose, and within a couple of years she was wearing fairly thick lenses. She's been quite pleased with herself ever since.
tt - thanks for the referral and I'lll check Kaplan's method out. His area code is 206 which is some islands near Seattle so you can't get much closer to BC than that.
shawnsmith - TO the good, eh?
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"It's worth considering that tms is not a treatment but rather an unfolding of the self, and a way of living as an emotionally aware and engaged soul." Plum |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 12:11:05
BC, Canada, only 3000K away from where I live.
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 09:52:20
Ok balto, your far sighted. You need to practice reading close up, start first with larger letters and bring the book or whatever closer with time, then use smaller letters. Try practicing reading when your out without your glasses. You will see that your mind needs to be in control and realaxed in order to be able to make out the letters. Never stare at the letters, shift your eyes around the letters and blink and breath a lot and you will be able to make some progress. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 09:15:53
Njoy,
Here's a link below to the site of a world renown eye doctor who can help explain your vision/VISION issues. He's complementary to TMS thinking. I think he may be up in your neck of the woods, BC, Canada. I've read two of his books and got much out of them, I don't worry about my vision anymore.
G'luck, see ya',
tt
http://www.beyond2020vision.com/ |
| balto |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 08:58:32
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Originally posted by Ace1
Balto are you near sighted or far sighted? Have you been wearing your glasses? Are you practicing on a eyechart? Are you doing the swinging and palming exercises to prevent the stareing and straining of the eye? Are you blinking and relaxing when your eyes are esp. blurry? Are you trying to prevent yourself from rushing to see everything fast, but taking the time to actually see?
I need glasses to read labels at market and read books, that is near sighted right?
I did everthing you've listed above except for the palming and swinging exercise. I'm not very strict with myself about it though, Costco's glasses is so cheap you know. My sister said she believe Dr Bates' method will work if we follow it, I believe her but I'm just so lazy. Picking up a pair of glasses is so quick and easy.
But I'm going to do it. I just want to prove to myself his method will work because from what I've read, it make lots of sense.
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| Ace1 |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 08:47:23
Yes vision correction is hard esp. if you have worn glasses before because it has forced you mind to maintain a continous strain. The goal is to try not to wear them as much as possible (without risking yourself to danger, such as driving etc) and trying to use your eyes without forcing them. Its like a letting go of them or an opening up feeling. You have to practice this and and you will see that this habit is so engrained espescially from the glasses that kept them that way for so long. THis is the basic premise and sometimes the reading of Dr. Bates work is mistaken for excercise alone. THe point is they must achieve what I stated above or they become counter productive. Breathing helps and not trying to be so intense at trying to see. Remember that seeing is a PASSIVE sense. In other words, effort, only hinders the eyes ability. Balto are you near sighted or far sighted? Have you been wearing your glasses? Are you practicing on a eyechart? Are you doing the swinging and palming exercises to prevent the stareing and straining of the eye? Are you blinking and relaxing when your eyes are esp. blurry? Are you trying to prevent yourself from rushing to see everything fast, but taking the time to actually see? |
| plum |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 07:33:53
This strikes a personal chord in that I've held the hands of two nearest and dearest who have traversed this path. Knowing them both so well (mum and best friend), and knowing about tms, showed me quite clearly the beast they could not or did not wish to see.
For my mum the loss of sight is the most unimaginable horror. For my friend, a traveller of sorts and an artist, it threatened all the freedoms she's etched in the sky. Both were terrified when told they were developing cataracts.
For my mum this happened about three years ago. I have only once before seen her so terrified by the dark of tragedy, and I knew that this was not the time to impose a fresh philosophy on her so I filled her with hope and challenged the inevitability of the opthalmologists curse. Like you she has type 2 diabetes that she manages superbly through diet and supplementation, and it was through this same means that I approached her healing. She experienced a complete turnaround and the shadows of cataracts are gone completely.
My friend developed them following surgery for retinal detachment. This is fairly recent and so early days. Again it was not appropriate to voice thoughts on tms so I embraced the complementary paradigm wrapped in the skin of hope. (I also sent her the Louise Hay video, which she has watched. Thanks Shawn.)
Both of them have endured a huge amount of stress in recent years, both have been bereaved, both are tms personality types to the letter. I am certain both would be amenable to the tms theories but the time was wrong. Too much fear. Too much panic. So I wrapped them in more familiar blankets, which incidentally I do believe made a contribution, with a mental note to gently raise deeper issues when they are less likely to be rejected. All things in good time.
So in a roundabout way I'm saying that I'm sure you've out-classed yourself with this tms episode and that you can resolve it. Having followed your posts here, it's evident that you've tasted spectacular success.
The symbology of eye problems is so clear I need not venture there, and you have described your own thoughts so exceptionally that there is nothing to add.
Is it of value to contemplate myopia in the broadest, psychological sense? Quite possibly. Only you can determine the literal relationship and best fit.
I'll own the pathologies in my life that while keeping me stuck, keep me settled. It's a paradoxical knife-edge that both tantalises and taunts. There is so much we don't know. The soul is ever mysterious and will always resist our sanitisation and reasoning. Who is to say that the fire we perceive to be threatening is not a brazier for wisdoms cold hands? Maybe we are altered in the fulfilment of such things, rather than enlightened in the uncovering.
This is not to suggest that we collapse into these oddities and frailties but to honour their purpose. SteveO recommended a book called Romancing the Shadow and this approach has much merit. Much as I want the neuroscience, I need the poetry. Our bodies possess a peculiar genius that our minds can be so dull to understand.
Accepting the prosaic if you'd like to know the herbal lore and supplements employed, I can happily share. If it's digging deeper you want I have my spade to hand.
Bright blessings to you my love. |
| All1Spirit |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 07:27:23
To see everything from one perspective fails reality!!
Humans like tight boxes and are drawn to black and white thinking. Religions, politics and clubs are expressions of how humans vacate rational throught and join something to have a sense of identity and boundaries....please don’t confuse me with reality I am enjoying my denial.
Humans are psyche – soma and spiritus....to deny any one of these is to deny reality. To lump too much into one diagnostic criteria is dangerous and very myopic.
We have materialistic bodies, things go wrong and it is not all the result of the psyche.
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| balto |
Posted - 03/13/2013 : 06:55:40
many people now think eye problems is partly or wholely Mindbody. Ace1 recommend using Dr. Bates' teaching to reverse poor eye sight. I have tried but have not seeing much improvement in my eye sight yet, but I did discover that I unconciously "straining" my eyes for no reason (conditioning). Maybe when I can undo that conditioning I may see positive result.
Read more about Dr Bates' teaching here for free: http://www.seeing.org/
thanks to Ace for the information on dr Bates.
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