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| All1Spirit |
Posted - 02/06/2013 : 07:26:44
I have hosted anxiety support groups in our community for many years and many of the people who come have body pain - more like fibro
all over pain
I dont see anxiety and panic listed in the TMS symptoms - are they common with TMS and are they relieved with the TMS work |
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 02/06/2013 : 18:29:44
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Originally posted by bryan3000
...We're not here because our bodies hurt.... we're here because we are afraid of our bodies hurting. Call it TMS or anxiety... the basic, primary building block is fear.
I'm here because I find the topic fascinating, and am curious how it all turns out. |
| bryan3000 |
Posted - 02/06/2013 : 18:12:23
All1,
Sarno called anxiety a "TMS equivalent." You can do a lot of research around this forum on the issue.
You'll hear a variety of opinions, many from people who make it seem as if three's one solution or answer to
the problem, and of course there is not.
I will say, if you go through and read the success stories here, most people with TMS sound like they really have anxiety/panic.
My primary issues are anxiety/panic but I've had every physical malady in the book because of it. Random pains in my legs, feet, back, ass, head, upper back, shoulders, arms, burning sensations on my skin and honestly a list so long I don't even feel like typing it.
Do I have these issues because I have repressed rage? I somewhat doubt it. (Sorry Dr. Sarno.) I have an over-sensitized nervous system that has broken down
down to extended life stress, behavioral and other issues. (And horrific and misguided medical care.)
I don't think there's a single person who has ever posted on this board who doesn't have anxiety. Maybe not in the form of pure panic... but the primary feature of everyone here is fear of their symptoms. If you read the success stories... the primary key for almost all of them involves losing fear of the symptoms.
You say your symptoms are debilitating and I completely believe you. Claire Weekes worked with people who were literally bedridden.
Nurses stood around in shock as she enabled them to stand up and walk... after the doctors had told them they couldn't.
Your nervous system is serious business. It can make us feel miserable. I've been on the verge of having to quit my job, and worse.
All because of anxiety/panic.
So, we can get into the discussion of whether or not the cause is childhood trauma or repressed rage, but the bottom line is (to me) the resulting factor is
anxiety behavior. Panic behavior. Fear thoughts. Fear mentality. Victim mentality. Loss of confidence. Fear of the future. Fear of pain. Fear of not feeling well. Fear of uncertainty.
We're not here because our bodies hurt.... we're here because we are afraid of our bodies hurting. Call it TMS or anxiety... the basic, primary building block is fear.
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 02/06/2013 : 13:20:38
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Originally posted by All1Spirit
I dont see anxiety and panic listed in the TMS symptoms - are they common with TMS and are they relieved with the TMS work
As anxiety and panic are emotions that emanate from the subconscious, causing bodily symptoms such as increased activity by the involuntary nervous system, such as increased respiration, heart beat, perspiration, it is TMS. They are definitely mentioned through out the TMS literature as AFFECTIVE symptoms such as depression. After all, the Good Doctor's original nomenclature for the syndrome was "TENSION" Myositis Syndrome--what is tension if not a synonym for anxiety?
At the board here, we've beaten this one to death, with those who think anxiety is something other then TMS. If it's not congenital or due to trauma, it's likely to be TMS. As Dr. Sarno learned more about TMS through his clinical practice, he expanded his TMS definiton to include many other conditions that were not back, muscular, tendon or ligamental in nature--thus dropping the T-MYONEURAL-S label to the much more inclusive "THE MINDBODY SYNDROME. This nomenclature covers many other maladies including affective symptoms such as anxiety and panic.
I've had several panic attacks causing me to go to the doc or ER-- you're damn right you get panicky when you think you're about to die of a heart-attack. As soon as they put me on the EKG, and said everything was fine, I immediately felt FINE--what better proof of the tricks the subconscious can pull on the mindbody.
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