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| NicoleSachsLCSW |
Posted - 01/14/2013 : 16:01:32
Please read the following, as it will change your life if you struggle with TMS. I wrote this book for every YOU out there, but ESPECIALLY for everyone here. You are my people. Please feel free to be in touch via my website, www . meaningoftruthbook . com. I can't promise to respond to every post, but I will read them all. I am passionate about my work, and helping people.
More about me:
Whatever you are feeling, I get it. I do, because I was once you.
My name is Nicole J. Sachs, LCSW. I'm a Clinical Psychotherapist AND was a Sarno patient years ago, in my early 30's. I spoke for years on Sarno's Alumni Panel at NYU (I see myself referenced in many of these old posts, which makes me smile.) After years of working with many Sarno patients and many more of my own, I've written my first book on the topic which I am CERTAIN will help you. You, and every YOU out there. I wrote this book for you.
I hope that you are inspired to stay on this path. The power of this science is mind-blowing, to me at least. It saved and changed my life long ago, and still does every day.
OK! Enough preaching :) The easiest way to learn more: www . meaningoftruthbook . com
Currently, my book is available on AMAZON.com and LuLu.com, but will soon be available for B&N Nook, and selling independently on iTunes and iBooks (although LuLu's format works amazingly on iPads.) If you're not a computer/tablet person, the hardcover should be out in a couple weeks. All news will be posted to my site, so keep checking back.
I wish you all well, and I hope this helps you. If you are dedicated enough to be here, it certainly will.
All the best,
Nicole
Embrace your Truth, Create your Life. |
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| pspa123 |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 16:33:29
quote:
Originally posted by susan828
Jenny, it was the context and the previous sentence about Sarno's alumni that made it sound as if Nicole was mentioned in these posts. I asked her to show me where they are so I can see her prior posts. She had the chance to clarify and did not so until she does, it still isn't clear to me. You may be right but it would be good if someone answers a question instead of ignoring it.
Susan I read it the same way as you, in fact I am not sure how "referenced" in that context can mean anything else but referred to, but I guess it is what it is and we should move on. |
| chickenbone |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 15:44:35
I like your thoughts, Shawnsmith and Jennypeanut. Just a quick comment. I don't think the point that the naysayers were making was that we have too many TMS books or that newcomers are not welcome. It is rather that we are intelligent people who expect honest and direct answers from someone who professes to be a professional trying to help us. Experts on this forum need to be held to a high standard, because if not, the forun can lose credibility. They must earn our respect, not demand it. |
| susan828 |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:38:50
Jenny, it was the context and the previous sentence about Sarno's alumni that made it sound as if Nicole was mentioned in these posts. I asked her to show me where they are so I can see her prior posts. She had the chance to clarify and did not so until she does, it still isn't clear to me. You may be right but it would be good if someone answers a question instead of ignoring it. |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:12:55
quote:
Originally posted by jennypeanut
Thanks Shawn. Also can you share with me what you are talking about that ACE wrote? I've been working at this for months now. Obviously still miles to go.
Ace1, who is a physician, wrote this:
http://tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7765&whichpage=1
Read and follow it every day for a month. You have centimeters to go, not miles. You just can't see it yet. But you will. |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:10:53
quote:
Originally posted by jennypeanut
And that last post from me makes little sense in the context of this post so let me clarify: In this long line of ranting posts, people claim we don't need more TMS books. I don't see the problem with this. Also - and maybe this is another post - but I don't see what's wrong with taking that perfectionist nature and using it differently - in a positive way.
That is all...
Sure, gaining more knowledge is always a good thing, but holding the belief that healing is just around the corner if you just read that next book or article is not the answer. For the purpose of getting better, all the information you need about TMS is now in your possession and anything you further learn will merely be of an academic benefit. |
| jennypeanut |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:09:25
Thanks Shawn. Also can you share with me what you are talking about that ACE wrote? I've been working at this for months now. Obviously still miles to go. |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:07:13
Hi jennypeanut
I do highly recommend that you go back and re-read the last section of SteveO's book (chapters 27-40) and this time do so really carefully, reflecting deeply and what he is saying. You do not need any more information than what you already have. You merely need to act upon the knowledge you possess. Just be patient and don't expect immediate results. |
| jennypeanut |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:04:14
And that last post from me makes little sense in the context of this post so let me clarify: In this long line of ranting posts, people claim we don't need more TMS books. I don't see the problem with this. Also - and maybe this is another post - but I don't see what's wrong with taking that perfectionist nature and using it differently - in a positive way.
That is all... |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:03:05
quote:
Originally posted by Ace1
I see that your progressing very nicely shawn
If I told you I have experienced a 65% reduction in pain in two weeks as a result of your keys to healing you would not believe me, so I won't tell you. |
| jennypeanut |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:01:24
Shawn, thanks.
I have read in Steve O's book how TMSers can't get enough info and we obsess over books, info, etc. But it seems to me that I have the "addict" personality and this is why. If i don't obsess over healing or (hopefully more in the future) helping others, then I go back to obsessing over negative things like health or relationships. So in that regard isn't it better to obsess over TMS healing and help?
I'm sure there is a higher way to think and re-train your brain, but so far I find that positive obsessions (like in AA - get a hobby to obsess over) replace the negative obsessions. If someone has found the magic key to turn the obsessive thinking switch to OFF, gladly throw it my way.
And the reason i bring this up is whats wrong with reading lots of TMS books? |
| Ace1 |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 14:00:07
I see that your progressing very nicely shawn |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 13:57:50
Hi jennypeanut,
I would not worry too much about these occasional flare-ups which take place on this message board. The message board is overall very helpful even when there is strongly held opinions expressed at times. Most people on the board are hurting one way or another and just need the opportunity to vent. Try to overlook people's short-comings or occasional angry outbursts and see the big picture.
Warm regards,
Shawn |
| jennypeanut |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 13:51:44
Okay so I have now read all the posts because this has truly scared me as a place that I should perhaps cease visiting/seeking advice.
Personally, after reading Steve O's book, which he did NOT tell me about when he responded to my very first post, but that I had to look for myself, I've found that forgiveness is an essential part of the TMS healing process. I don't think forgiveness is always retroactive. I think forgiveness is part of love. And a huge part of loving others is offering them the benefit of the doubt. Nicole was given little benefit of the doubt here. And may I venture to also say extremely little love. Maybe I'm going on an emotional treasure hunt with this, but after reading all of this (especially the personal attacks) it seems to me that the "right to express opinions" has won out over decency to fellow human beings. Even worse, fellow human beings who share in similar suffering and come here for help.
I was in another forum where you could be kicked out for insulting others or personally attacking people. I'm not saying that should happen but there is no accountability to this.
I think ACE impressed me because he disagreed with the initial posting yet he wasn't nasty. Why can't it be like that?
Nicole, you are really being judged by your book's cover here. Which is kind of funny I guess since you literally sort of are as well. Anyway, just some follow up thoughts here since I hadn't fully read everything when I posted above. |
| jennypeanut |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 13:32:28
I will confess, I stopped reading the posts on page 4 because it was taking too much of my time. However, I wanted to respond as a person who has found help here.
Nicole, thank you for coming here and making yourself known. How else will I find out about other TMS literature? As a woman, I am interested in reading another woman's perspective, especially a mom's perspective as I too am a mom. I am looking forward to reading your book. Are you still offering it free? If I like it I will write you a glaring review. Yes, that's right.
I have a good friend who is an author of some very popular books. We (her friends) always write reviews right away when the latest is out on Amazon because we have already read her book before it's "out".
I am appalled by the way you were chewed up and spit out here. Appalled. So much so, that I am thinking maybe this an unhealthy place to be. There are some wonderful people who have helped in so many ways in my own process of discovering and implementing TMS and I am indebted to this forum for that.
That said, I am shocked and disgusted by the attitudes in this post.
I do want to address something Susan has asked you about:
quote:
I asked you to point out the posts where you are mentioned previously, for which there is no record...but you did not. You offered a pdf of your book which a few people requested and it has not been received.
When I read this in your initial post, I took it to mean that "you see yourself referenced in so many posts" by seeing how similar your own story is to others here. So, perhaps Susan, this answers your question.
Typically I'm a rather skeptical person, but I have no problem with finding out about your book. You also graciously offered it free to anyone interested to prove that you want to help.
It's easy to say things in a forum that you would never say in real life face to face. I think it's fine to disagree about weather someone should be allowed to share or promote their own book regarding TMS, but the nasty tones this debate has taken has given me the open door to exit this place entirely.
Truly shocked,
Jen |
| NicoleSachsLCSW |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 12:12:50
I can't help but keep saying thank you. I am honest, legit and really happy to be helping here. Thank you for welcoming me.
quote:
Originally posted by maccafan
I just had time to return to the forum and check out the follow ups to this thread. WOW - what a mess! I can't believe that because one person came on a forum and announced that she had written a book and wanted to share it with us that all this stuff has resulted from it. She seemed happy and proud of what she had done and genuinely seemed to want to just help some people with it. She said that she has a full time job and is raising 5 kids and is real busy but she wanted to get this news to us. I got the impression that she WOULD be contributing to the forum in the future.
With her first post my eyebrows did raise a bit but that's all because overall and after looking at her website I got a good feeling about her and I wanted to give her a chance. But then she was jumped on so severely that I was shocked. I can understand that some people may not have wanted to give her a chance but to be so rude about it was uncalled for. It was like some posters felt threatened about something and not just miffed. I remember that a while back some idiot and obvious scammer had made a couple of different posts paying compliments to the poster and then giving some salespitch about something that had absolutely nothing to do with psychology of any kind. This happens at all forums and is a plain out scammer trying to sneak in. Nicole's posts weren't like this at all. She even came back and tried to explain several times what she meant and was trying to do. A real scammer would not have done this. Some people may not have approved of her presentation but that does not excuse their behavior in how they handled it.
Bryan, to me it sounds like you have something personal against tennis tom and have had for a long time. Nicole is an innocent bystander. And you seem to need a feeling of back up from others on the forum. You've said many times how others feel the same way as you. I don't feel the same way as you so don't count me in your court. Why don't you just go toe to toe with tt and forget about the rest of us. He can handle it. And to my knowledge tt has never said that anyone on this board does not have a right to their opinion. This is my opinion and I have a right to it. It would be a definite shame and loss if tt does leave because he gives good and to the point pure Sarno TMS advice with no fluff. And his wit keeps this place fresh and on its toes. It is also my opinion that tt has not done a damn thing wrong concerning his desire to welcome this person to the board.
I also saw potential in what Nicole had to offer. Each offer of a book, journal, paper or article brought to our attention by any author that has to do with anything that could possibly help us in our journeys to be free of pain and discomfort should be taken on an individual basis. Also they should be given every chance first to prove themselves before being pounced upon with negativity because we could be missing out on the very thing could be the answer for one or more of us.
I hate to think what a newcomer would think of this forum if they happened to read this topic first!
I'm for giving peace a chance.
MACCAFAN
Embrace your Truth, Create your Life. |
| maccafan |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 11:49:40
I just had time to return to the forum and check out the follow ups to this thread. WOW - what a mess! I can't believe that because one person came on a forum and announced that she had written a book and wanted to share it with us that all this stuff has resulted from it. She seemed happy and proud of what she had done and genuinely seemed to want to just help some people with it. She said that she has a full time job and is raising 5 kids and is real busy but she wanted to get this news to us. I got the impression that she WOULD be contributing to the forum in the future.
With her first post my eyebrows did raise a bit but that's all because overall and after looking at her website I got a good feeling about her and I wanted to give her a chance. But then she was jumped on so severely that I was shocked. I can understand that some people may not have wanted to give her a chance but to be so rude about it was uncalled for. It was like some posters felt threatened about something and not just miffed. I remember that a while back some idiot and obvious scammer had made a couple of different posts paying compliments to the poster and then giving some salespitch about something that had absolutely nothing to do with psychology of any kind. This happens at all forums and is a plain out scammer trying to sneak in. Nicole's posts weren't like this at all. She even came back and tried to explain several times what she meant and was trying to do. A real scammer would not have done this. Some people may not have approved of her presentation but that does not excuse their behavior in how they handled it.
Bryan, to me it sounds like you have something personal against tennis tom and have had for a long time. Nicole is an innocent bystander. And you seem to need a feeling of back up from others on the forum. You've said many times how others feel the same way as you. I don't feel the same way as you so don't count me in your court. Why don't you just go toe to toe with tt and forget about the rest of us. He can handle it. And to my knowledge tt has never said that anyone on this board does not have a right to their opinion. This is my opinion and I have a right to it. It would be a definite shame and loss if tt does leave because he gives good and to the point pure Sarno TMS advice with no fluff. And his wit keeps this place fresh and on its toes. It is also my opinion that tt has not done a damn thing wrong concerning his desire to welcome this person to the board.
I also saw potential in what Nicole had to offer. Each offer of a book, journal, paper or article brought to our attention by any author that has to do with anything that could possibly help us in our journeys to be free of pain and discomfort should be taken on an individual basis. Also they should be given every chance first to prove themselves before being pounced upon with negativity because we could be missing out on the very thing could be the answer for one or more of us.
I hate to think what a newcomer would think of this forum if they happened to read this topic first!
I'm for giving peace a chance.
MACCAFAN |
| bryan3000 |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 09:39:48
Mala,
I respect your opinion and just have a thought or two...
Your notion that "we'll never know" if she had an agenda is definitely one many around here would question. Many of us seem to already believe she did have one, and there has been quite a bit of evidence put forth to confirm that. Not the least of which would be the hard-sell approach, book and website links, and a wealth of information about her and her product as opposed to just assimilating with us like a normal person.
She has not been told to leave. She deemed this place "toxic," just days after telling us that we were her people. If we were her people, and there was indeed negative energy... she should certanily be sticking around to help us heal, as Pspa pointed out.
I think the feeling of many here is that she may not have been completely up front with her intentinos, and if you are going to come into an existing forum... post ads for your product and announce that "I can help".... you are likely going to be the subject of more scrutiny than a normal poster who mingles as an equal. As others have pointed out, we have a host of practicing medical professionals here who post regularly, mix with the group and aren't seemingly on a proudct push.
We all deserve a say. I resect your opinion on that matter and hopefully you can understand the position of those of us who feel differently about it... and want to keep the forum organic and mutually respectful. At a time like this, it would seem to me to be easiest to just reference the rules of the forum, which clearly state what the intent is to be here. We also have seem a recent example where the forum moderator acted to have another recent proudct push toned down. So, we know what the parameters are.
We can agree to disagree, but I think respecting the boundaries of the forum is the simplest way to move forward.
Thanks for the civil replies.
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| chickenbone |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 09:02:06
Mala, I did not attack you in any way. That is purely your imagination. I am very sorry you took it that way.
TT, when I first met you, I really thought you were great. But now I see a different side that I don't like so much. If you are going to disagree, you are welcome to do that, but don't expect all of us to have the same opinion that you have. At least express your disagreement through the use of your intellect and not through launching personal attacks on other members of this forum. And spare us the theatrics of threatening to leave the forum if you don't get what you want.
We all need to remember that all of us are human beings with feelings. Would we be talking like this to each other face to face? When we are angry (and TMS'ers are often angry) we tend to depersonalize and not regard the other person as another human being. I have anger and I enjoy a lively argument once in a while, but this has gone too far when vicious personal attacks are being thrown around. |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 06:06:03
Each of us has his or her own perspective, and we should be respectful of that. My own, probably informed by being a lawyer (no asbestos cases though) as Susan's is informed by being an investigator, is that the book reviews raised some red flags and that Nicole's explanation was not entirely persuasive.
But more importantly, if Nicole truly cares about us ("You are my people") and is so certain she can change our lives, as she professes, then she is free to share her insights and I hope she will. Nothing I read suggests to me anyone was trying to run her off the forum, and if she cares as much as she says, she shouldn't be deterred by a few legitimate questions or even a little "negative energy."
I also agree with whoever said that the tactic of labelling someone who has the temerity to question you as angry and resistant is pretty lame, especially coming from a therapist. I hope if Nicole stays/returns/whatever she won't adopt that attitude. In my view, anyone espousing ideas, and especially anyone doing so with the imprimatur of professional experience, should be prepared to defend those ideas on the merits without resorting to ad hominem attacks on the questioner.
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| Birdie78 |
Posted - 01/18/2013 : 05:12:27
Well said, plum! I agree to 100%!
Kind regards from Germany sends Birdie |
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