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| Ragdoll |
Posted - 12/01/2012 : 09:52:38
This site is fascinating. But I'm not sure TMSis what I have and I don't see any TMS doctors in my area. My story, I hurt my back first 25 years ago. Chiropractor got me fixed up. But I have had anxiety issues my whole life. Also TMJ and a bit of hypochondria and weight issues. And cold hands and feet. So my current symptoms that worry me are a bit of lower back and buttock pain that goes down my legs into my feet. I have had xrays, not a mri. The worst part is at night, not every night, a few times a week,just as I am relaxed in bed wanting to sleep, I get the awful cramps. Sometimes in my feet, sometimes in my calf, sometimes in the shin muscle. The last is the worst and most excruciating. I take some ibuprofen and try to just breathe and it gets better. Then I am sore the next day. My PCP thinks the cramps are not dangerous, suggested I drink more water. And I am afraid of doing anything that may make it happen, but I want to hike and camp and dance and do yoga, and I am afraid. I work full time, i like my job. I am married, not very happily. So clearly I have psychological issues, and I am inclined to try the journaling and the affirmations to see if it gets better. But, that approach implies doubt, and it appears you have to believe in it completely to work. Is that right? Any room for doubt? Or trial and error?
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| balto |
Posted - 12/06/2012 : 05:01:32
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Originally posted by ron213
[brp.s living in israel is indeed stresfull. (living elsewhere in the region is much worst..) but i think the root of tms is not in the issues that you are aware and discussed at length openly with other ppl, preety much everyday. sure a loud siren and a rocket that makes his way to your house does not help one to meditate. (and for balance being subjected to idf airstrikes where there is no alarm at all is far from being ideal as well)
but i think that stress caused by simple life interactions and the pressure that you put on yourself, have a much bigger role in tms.
I agreed. Almost 40 years after the war ended in Vietnam, the rate of people suffered from mental health is 20 higher than during the war. Modernization, properity create different classes in society and that produced isolation and separation.
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No, I don't know everything. I'm just here to share my experience. |
| ron213 |
Posted - 12/06/2012 : 03:45:57
quote:
Originally posted by Peregrinus
There is a lot of magnesium in vegetables and nuts. As I said earlier, exercise worked for me. As you age your blood circulation to your legs decreases. My theory is that prolonged and frequent exercise of the legs reverses that condition.
An Argentinian study published in the November 1999 "Journal of Family Practice" found that magnesium was not effective in treating nocturnal leg cramps. Patients were given 900 mg of magnesium twice a day for a period of one month and then a placebo for the following month. Researchers found no significant difference in the duration or severity of leg cramps between magnesium and placebo. In fact, all patients saw an improvement in their condition, regardless of the supplement used, suggesting that participants experienced a true placebo effect.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/496029-how-much-magnesium-relieves-leg-cramps/#ixzz2EDV9uQK7
hi,
I have read some more about this, and indeed you can find diffrent outlooks,
http://www.livestrong.com/article/284218-magnesium-for-leg-cramps-in-bed/
here the same site, suggest indeed again that Magenzium was not effective in research, and at the next paragraph of the very same page it recommends taking it for cramps...
here is a different source with different claims:
http://www.mg12.info/articles/cramps.html
i guess you can pretty much find what you look for.
that being said, i was not able to find a clinical evidence that Magnesium helps for cramps indeed.
based on my experience i would try it, even if it serves as a placebo effect. (studies shows placebo effect is there even when the patient is aware that he is receiving a placebo). also its very likely you lack magnesium anyway.
p.s living in israel is indeed stresfull. (living elsewhere in the region is much worst..) but i think the root of tms is not in the issues that you are aware and discussed at length openly with other ppl, preety much everyday. sure a loud siren and a rocket that makes his way to your house does not help one to meditate. (and for balance being subjected to idf airstrikes where there is no alarm at all is far from being ideal as well)
but i think that stress caused by simple life interactions and the pressure that you put on yourself, have a much bigger role in tms. |
| Peregrinus |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 14:59:41
There is a lot of magnesium in vegetables and nuts. As I said earlier, exercise worked for me. As you age your blood circulation to your legs decreases. My theory is that prolonged and frequent exercise of the legs reverses that condition.
An Argentinian study published in the November 1999 "Journal of Family Practice" found that magnesium was not effective in treating nocturnal leg cramps. Patients were given 900 mg of magnesium twice a day for a period of one month and then a placebo for the following month. Researchers found no significant difference in the duration or severity of leg cramps between magnesium and placebo. In fact, all patients saw an improvement in their condition, regardless of the supplement used, suggesting that participants experienced a true placebo effect.
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/496029-how-much-magnesium-relieves-leg-cramps/#ixzz2EDV9uQK7
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| LuvtoSew |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 12:53:46
Hi and welcome. Yes magnesium is something we usually need more of esp. if one takes a lot of calcium in. But as far as Tms, I do believe stress can cause a lot of pain and changes in the body, repressed anger. I know when I don't think about guarding my body,
Bracing its called, I do better. I force myself throuht the pain, as well one needs to keep moving , and well I'm no worst for it, so as long as you have been medically tested for things and the doctor can't find anything like thyroid, diabetes etc, then you may as well keep thinking mental as it won't hurt.
I agree it must be stressful living in Israel. |
| eric watson |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 11:16:26
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Originally posted by Ragdoll
I'll give magnesium a try, thanks!
try the magnesium,our bodys do need supplements as time goes by i assume -i always had leg cramps-the more i feared
the worse they would get- |
| Ragdoll |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 10:58:47
I'll give magnesium a try, thanks! |
| ron213 |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 10:50:51
thanks |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 10:13:02
Hi Ron213,
I just noticed you are in Israel, living there surrounded by millions of neighbors who want to kill you would supply all the TMS tension one could ask for. I thought there was a TMS practitioner in Israel, did a quick google search and found this:
http://www.myspace.com/shoshannahpiano/blog/252121817
G'luck! |
| ron213 |
Posted - 12/05/2012 : 03:53:24
Hi,
i am a bit new here, il just give my two cents..
not everything that happens in life is tms related, some things are some things aint. when you visit this forum its easy to get replys that say that your symptoms are TMS related. i myself suffers from tms i believe it, and i made huge improvement. i believe that all can benefit from doing TMS exercises regardless if they have pain or not.
that all being said, My father for example suffered from the same thing for years(cramps is his leg, he would complain a lot), at some point he began taking Magnesium, the cramps stopped. later that year my wife's father had the same problem i told him about my father he tried, and it passed as well. maybe it will help you as well maybe not.
read more about Magnesium and decide yourself. google it and you will find a lot more ppl.
maybe you suffer from tms symptoms but then again maybe not.
doing tms exercises is beneficial either way.
Good luck! |
| andy64tms |
Posted - 12/02/2012 : 13:59:29
Statin hope.
My wife was put on Lipitor, like millions of others, and over six months reacted physically and mentally. Physically her finger nails went orange, despite regular blood tests, and she had leg cramps. Mentally she was in a sort of haze; she had had surgery several months prior to taking the medication, and assumed incorrectly this was the after effects of the anesthetic. At her 60th surprise party she was confused to the point of embarrassment.
This sparked a visit to her doctor, then an HMO female doctor who she liked very much. My wife had researched the side effects of the “above said drug”, and found the symptoms/side effects prevail in 1 in a few hundred thousand or so. Even her doctor was unaware and interested in what she had to say. My wife then stopped taking the medication and the side effects stopped.
Hope:
Five years later at her Medicare exam her new doctor (specializing in Internal medicine), knew of the issue and respected her concerns. He prescribed a “water soluble statin” called: “Pravastatin Sodium”. He explained that this type of statin does not stay in the system at all, being water soluble, whereas Lipitor remains in the fat within the body.
In the big pros and cons discussion about Statins and whether to take or not, my wife’s concerns are eased by the complete lack of symptoms. And her cholesterol levels have been dramatically reduced without any side effects at all.
I am going to ask her to read this thread, as I agree knowledge and opposing views are helpful in decision making.
MTCW…My Two Cents Worth, but if you invest two cents you can make lots of money!
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
| andy64tms |
Posted - 12/02/2012 : 11:44:39
Hi Raggity doll, welcome.
This site is fascinating because of the real truth and real stories that are told here in anonymity. For instance you said:
“I work full time, I like my job. I am married, not very happily.”
Could you be more enthusiastic about your job more than your marriage? The balance between work and your marriage can only be met with personal honesty. I don’t mean to preach, just an observation.
Belief in TMS comes with exposure, stay with us, read books, and you will heal.
Welcome again.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 12/02/2012 : 11:01:38
Serious questions also have been raised about the studies supposedly proving the safety and efficacy of statins. Data is very much a question of how you look at it, even if you trust the data. For example, let's take a claim that statins cut your risk of heart attack by 50 percent. Sounds great doesn't it? But suppose your risk was one in two million before and one in a million afterwards. Is that reduction meaningful? These are extreme hypotheticals but my point is that it's all in how the data is presented. I have had extensive discussions on this with a close friend who happens to be a leading statin researcher and proponent, and I remain convinced that exercise, a sensible diet, and a few well-chosen supplements are a better idea than statins for most people. |
| Peregrinus |
Posted - 12/02/2012 : 10:41:38
quote:
Originally posted by pspa123
I would encourage anyone on or considering a statin to read more about it and make an informed assessment.
It would be nice if we could get physicians to do this! Ask your physician about cholesterol and you’ll get a lot of double talk. The big study that was initially claimed to unequivocally prove that high cholesterol levels increase the risk of heart disease actually proved that inflammation and not cholesterol is a risk factor.
Why are statins still universally prescribed? A patient taking these drugs has to be continuously monitored thereby increasing cash flow for the medical industry.
Knowledge is power!
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| pspa123 |
Posted - 12/02/2012 : 09:03:52
There has been a great deal written against the routine use of statins and indeed against the high cholesterol causes heart disease theory in general. I found much of it quite persuasive, although I tend to be biased against big pharma and big medicine. Statins disrupt a fundamental metabolic pathway in the liver where many things are involved besides manufacture of cholesterol, I would encourage anyone on or considering a statin to read more about it and make an informed assessment. |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 12/02/2012 : 05:55:13
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Originally posted by Peregrinus
Almost every man my age I know takes statins.
That should tell you something right there. Why now, at this time in the history of humanity are such things cropping up and becoming wide-spread? The more I read about these so-called epidemics, the more I am convinced that Sarno is correct. |
| Peregrinus |
Posted - 12/01/2012 : 19:24:43
Before I retired several of my male coworkers who were about my age also complained about leg cramps at night. I heard that statins (used to lower cholesterol) can cause these problems. One coworker, who was taking statins, had a cramp one night that ruptured his Achilles tendon (a serious injury). I also heard that there has been an epidemic of such injuries in recent years. Almost every man my age I know takes statins. |
| pspa123 |
Posted - 12/01/2012 : 19:07:12
I get foot cramps at night too from time to time and they certainly hurt like hell, I don't think of it as TMS but just one of those annoying idiopathic things maybe from getting older or some temporary electrolyte imbalance or something. But in any event the point I wanted to make is that I get up the next day and do my bike workout and nothing seems the worse for wear after many months of this so my guess is you aren't going to hurt yourself at all either by doing the activities you want to do. And who knows maybe it is tms after all. |
| SteveO |
Posted - 12/01/2012 : 16:46:21
There's no room for doubt in TMS healing, but everyone doubts at first--a normal human reaction. Doubt is something that you overcome overtime. If you believe your body is somehow broken or has problems, then you won't heal.
The back pain (and the leg pain) is the TMS cake and all those other symptoms you have are the TMS icing. You should get the MRI at least for piece of mind. But all those other symptoms are like a trail of crumbs to a TMS doc-tective.
The ibuprofin is a placebo you don't need it and it isn't doing anything for you except irritating your gastrointestinal lining and costing you money.
Here's where your current symptoms are coming from, IMO. "I am married, not very happily."
Steve |
| Peregrinus |
Posted - 12/01/2012 : 16:37:11
Ragdoll:
I’m fairly new to this forum also. I think you will find it a valuable source of knowledge and understanding.
I have also suffered from leg cramps while in bed. They started when I was about 50 and gradually became more frequent. I also had them in my feet and calves. My cramping came on after I was asleep for awhile and I usually had to get up and walk around to get rid of them. I’m convinced that they are caused by poor circulation. After using my weight trainer for a few weeks and doing a lot of leg exercises, the cramps became much less frequent. After starting a regular bicycle routine the cramps all but vanished.
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| shawnsmith |
Posted - 12/01/2012 : 09:59:20
Hi Ragdoll,
Welcome to the forum. I am sorry to hear of your suffering. All of the symtoms you mentioned are classic TMS type symptoms and are mentioned in many TMS books.
What do you have to lose if you at least try implementing Dr. Sarno's ideas into your treatment program? Be patient as you do the reading and put into practrice TMS theories in your life, as not all people recover the same way.
Think past trauma, current stressors and personality traits you have which may be contributing to your symptoms.
Best wishes and keep posting and sharing. |
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