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| shawnsmith |
Posted - 11/06/2012 : 06:25:09
Well, I am stuck in the house these past 5 days due to a nasty cold that does not want to go away. But being in such a condition does give me time to reflect on my situation. It seems to me that when I am ill it feels like I have been ill forever and, in this time of discomfort, I have not experienced a moment of pleasure in my life. Falling into such a state of mind can lead a person to experience a sense of despair as well as self-pity, for what other outcome could one expect when they embrace such a mind-set?
The mind is a strange thing as it lies to us almost every moment of our existence. Byron Katie -- author of `Loving What Is` -- stated that she found that upon investigation every single thought she ever had in her life was not true. This is directly related to those of us who, for a variety of reasons, are suffering with TMS symptoms. It is the mindbody which tells us that there IS something wrong with us and that there is danger. The proof it offers are the symptoms. But the so called proof is a deception which we, and the entire medical establishment, has bought into, and it is hard to mentally shake off because the evidence is so compelling and the opinion is embraced by an almost universal consensus. Those who would suggest otherwise, such as Dr Sarno and other TMS practitioners, are looked upon as crackpots and worthy of dismissal.
But Dr. Sarno`s message all throughout his body of work is that there is NOTHING wrong with your back, feet, arms neck, groin etc and that you can safely, despite the discomfort of doing so, resume all normal physical activity as if you did not have any symptoms at all, and that doing so will not cause you the least bit of harm.
But the mindbody interrupts this message and says`NO, Dr Sarno and the other TMS doctors are wrong and you should not listen to them as they have no credibility in the medical establishment and, at best, their views are marginal.` In addition, our mindbody may tell us that yes, a TMS diagnosis may apply to others but that your pain is real and as a result, TMS treatment modalities will no work on you because you have a real physical problem which requires medical (physical) intervention.
I am telling you right now, with the authority of Dr. Sarno and the many patients he has helped heal backing me up, that we must resist this message and not fall into this clever and effective trap laid by our mindbodies and backed up by the medical establishment and society at large. Yes, it takes effort, real mental and physical effort, but one has to continually, day by day like an obsessed radical fundamentalist, tell themselves that there is NOTHING wrong and that the problem is TMS brought about by current stressors, personality traits and past trauma with a view to distracting us from hidden rage. The more you think about your symptoms, the more the TMS wins. The more you resume a normal life, the more the TMS will recede into the background. Yes, it will be uncomfortable and at times it will really hurt, but one must take this step if one wishes to recover. |
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| andy64tms |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 17:08:41
Hi Eric,
I did not mean to say you were exaggerating, sorry for that. Perhaps I did as my pain experiences were 20 years ago, and I could not remember all the exact details, I was just having some fun.
I am very pleased for your recovery, you deserve it, I must have missed Mala's post, no matter your healed.
Keep posting and have a good vacation.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
| eric watson |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 16:34:28
i hear u guys-andy -shawn-
i dont get where any one gets im not all the way healed or exagerating-...
i waited until i was before i decided to say how i did it...
i surely wouldnt say i was if i wasnt...
i was saying i was fired up basicly because i got healed...
(thats the reason i was telling mala how i did it--)
like i said we all heal differently sometimes and at others we heal the same..i hope i was able to help mala in some way she has helped me so much...
hope this explains the misunderstanding...
guys im healed-im happy-dont you see this is my vacation |
| andy64tms |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 13:26:11
Hi Eric,
Shawn is right! I've told you a thousand time to go and have fun and enjoy yourself.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 12:21:25
Eric,
You are spending too much time on trying to get well instead of accepting the fact that there is nothing wrong with you. I know it is hard to accept that there is nothing wrong because the symptoms indicate otherwise, but you have to come to this conclusion otherwise your cycle of suffering and doubts will only make matters worse for you.
Try not to over intellectualize too much as it rarely helps with one's progress.
Please read this: http://www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Educational_Program_Day_15 |
| andy64tms |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 11:30:25
Eric,
I’m going kayaking for two days, what are you doing? Take a break, pull back, and be thankful, it’s Thanksgiving.
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
| andy64tms |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 10:31:58
Deep thoughts Shawnsmith,
I agree we do indeed live in an untruthful world; some cover their whole lives with enough lies to be truly unhappy people. So I think it’s good to ponder, reflect every thought along the way, as we each of us find our personal truths.
Our lives could be described as "a field of lies, splattered with a host of ‘truthful’ golden daffodils". (Wordsworth said it well).
Eric and I have been reflecting our pains in another post. I hope we told the truth or did we exaggerate?!
Note: If you hear someone exaggerating, say to them:”I’ve told you a thousand times not to exaggerate”. It’s fun.
Get well
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Back on Wiki Edu Program day 15
Charlie Horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted later.)
Books:
Healing Back Pain
Unlearn your Pain
The Great Pain Deception |
| eric watson |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 09:53:06
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mala:I think I still have doubt , thats why I am still stuck
do you think this is conditioning mala-i know you have accepted the theory but the conditioning still remained after i accepted-mala i had a fire burning that kept me in study or practice or using the whole bag of tricks constantly for about 6 to 7 hrs a day-give or take a little more or less-i guess you can tell by all the post i wrote in the last 2 days i was consumed with practicing and believing everything i could get into my mind-its almost as if for the last three months this is pretty much all ive thought about,i feel like ive been schooled for 100 days straight and the fire is still burning-the affirmations were constant-the hope was constant-all the lessons of thinking psycolgical when i began to hurt and then jorunaling about my days weather it was rage or victory-the fear was always trying to rear its head and i would counter with the thought of victory or positive affirmations or focusing on another part of my body and of all things having the optimistic attitude continusly-i would get mad and journal-i would hurt and journal,,,to say the least i mixed everything into the pot and used it all...i was always looking for something new to add to my arsenal and in all of this i learnt that although i would say the affirmations ,i found that i had to feel in my mind that they were actually happening before they were and then within hours i would start to feel peace instead of just saying it-i would feel hope instead of just thinking it-this was my method mala and i know we are different but at the same time i also know these tecniqes can be universal-hope you dont think im trying to say you dont already do these ...because you really was a huge part in my healing...when you posted to me and said it seems that your doing everything right/with that thought coming from you it just gave me more of a burning desire to continue the course-hope this helps ...god bless... and as you already know order your mind that its not going to control you unless its all good....
and mala when i started to understand my personality traits that were causing tension-this helped a ton.... |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 07:27:42
What does it mean to you to "be better?" Does it mean to be pain free otherwise you are still ill? Or does it mean, yeah I have symptoms right now but they don't dominate my life?
In my view, getting better is NOT just about getting rid of the symptoms, but seeing yourself as essentially healthy and moving on with your life despite the symptoms. Yes it is tough, but this moving on must take place despite the pain.
Or, as Dr. Sarno says, "Resume all normal physical activity."
This all or nothing mentality is something which seems to be a common personality trait of those who have TMS.
Remember it is not about what is paining, but about what is hurting. And yes, there is a distinction between pain (physical) and hurt (emotional / psychological). While we concentrate on the former the latter is not being properly dealt with. Acknowledge the pain, but deal with the hurt. |
| mala |
Posted - 11/18/2012 : 03:07:38
That’s a really good post Shawn and I hope you are feeling better now. Despair is what I feel a lot of, the main despair being that I will never get better. It IS as you say a mindset for that is really what separates people who get better & recover from those who don’t -their mindset. Those who get better are the ones who think that they will.
Difficult as it may be, its very important to cultivate a positive way of thinking, to put into practice what we know by not succumbing to despair, fear, negative thoughts. Reading about TMS is one thing but actually implementing what we have learnt is very difficult. Maybe deep down inside we really don’t believe we have TMS. Our thoughts whatever they are create our reality. If we don’t really believe, then we can’t get better. If we don’t believe, then we can’t get rid of fear or despair. It’s all about believing. I think I still have doubt , that’s why I am still stuck.
Mala
Mala Singh Barber. I'm on facebook. Look me up
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| eric watson |
Posted - 11/16/2012 : 19:33:33
This is an awesome post shawn and i agree in full,you hit it on the head my friend -thanks for reminding us all what to look out for and to keep the hope and keep the healing till any form of tms is no more... |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 11/06/2012 : 07:11:55
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Originally posted by shawnsmith
But Dr. Sarno`s message all throughout his body of work is that there is NOTHING wrong with your back, feet, arms neck, groin etc and that you can safely, despite the discomfort of doing so, resume all normal physical activity as if you did not have any symptoms at all, and that doing so will not cause you the least bit of harm.
HEAR, HEAR! Well that's TMS in a nutshell. There is some benefit to your cold Shawnsmith, you were able to write that nice summary of the Good Doctor's theory. Maybe you could copy it to Amazon for a book review.
As Deepak Chopra says, "Staying home sick with a cold is the Western form of meditation."
Cheers
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