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| Logan |
Posted - 02/28/2005 : 09:48:07
Baseball and all,
Just thought I'd say that I went to the bookstore yesterday and picked up Luise Hay's book "Life" and a workbook that she put out with her previous "You can heal your life." I browsed through both books and decided to get Life because it dealt with more of the issues that I am struggling with - making the transition to real grown-up-hood (can't deny it anymore, turning 35 next week) and learning how to deal with professional power issues that are the result of issues with one's parents.
I figured that since these are the two big issues that initially triggered my TMS pain, and the issues that have kept me sort of "stuck" in anxiety and intermittent depression since then, that it could only help me to explore them further.
I feel a lot of resistance to the touchy-feely, new-agey aspect of Hay's style - I mean, there's a part of me going "I don't want to contemplate my inner child and I'm sure as heck not doing those ridiculous affirmations out loud while looking in the mirror, that is just plain stupid." - but I figure this resistance is actually a sign that I need to do this.
I know I'm not the first person to read Hay's work but I will keep you posted about my experience with it, especially the workbook and let you all know how it "worked" for me, or how I did the work. Wow, that sounds like a lot of work. :)
PS - Baseball, LH says we put on extra weight when we feel we need "protection." I've put on a "protective" layer myself since I started doing the TMS work. At other times in my life, when I felt "bulletproof", I was able to eat whatever I wanted, do minimal exercise and not worry about putting on pounds, in fact I dropped them effortlessly. But it does seem too good to be true, that you could lose weight by doing affirmations. There does seem to be an obvious correlation between what we eat/do and what we weigh. What do you think? |
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| Colleen |
Posted - 03/05/2005 : 07:56:23
I so agree with getting out "pen and paper" and writing! I keep a journal now and I am paying close attention to it. As for the gaining weight.....I do believe there is a connection between our emotional state and what we eat.....women have felt this for years....but on the other hand, age and metabolism are not always on our side!
Colleen |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 16:02:52
Hi Seth.
When I need to have a "special session" there is a place in my head/thinking that I move into to do battle of sorts with the spectres and shadows.
It's like a brainstorming session,except I'm looking for reasons/ideas/unknown and unseen external stimuli and internal reaction that might have triggered the new "symptom"
I do not reside here full time....that would make me useless to the outside world.
It usually takes me anywhere from 15 minutes to a couple of hours.I postulate why the new symptom might need to exist,what things am I NOT apparently angry,upset,fearful about that I ought to be or have been victimized by in the past.(I used to look at the obvious stresses,but since it's repressed,it's not going to be obvious...If I am really consciously mad at somebody,someone,I'll take it into account as well)
I get pen and paper and make up all sorts of possibles....and then AHA! and then I write and write on that topic(ALWAYS something I wasn't aware of) and than the symptom evaporates....and therein lies the proof that I was right.
It is the same place I extinguished the back pain....If I get a shot of sciatica,or a back stiffening I can literally say "NO" and it goes away instantly...
I of course worked hard for years to reach this point.On some of the newer stuff I've taken into the "place" it takes me a while longer...a few hours...to make them go away(cold,flu symptoms,sinus,ear irritations,nausea,headache etc)
I guess that some would say it is only the process itself....however,do to the variation in effort needed to banish a symptom,I would say it is how much the symptom can truly occupy my mind,get me to doubt the process,and how much private time I have to work on its banishment.I don't believe in back pain and haven't for many years,hence it goes away immediately(seconds)...I just got my first string of results with these other respiratory ailments,so of course I need more practice to get the knack.(minutes-hours)
This is like trying to explain how to surf...it's all feel...you and the wave...you can sort of describe the physical actions that need to be taken,but basically it's just you and the universe finding a Rythm you can work together.A lot of surfing looks similar,but to the individual surfers you would get thousands of interpretations of how they get the feel and...voila' ! they surf
or I go...Voila' !
no symptom
peace
Baseball65 |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 03/04/2005 : 10:23:25
I'm just bringing this back up top.
Seth |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 02/28/2005 : 19:42:12
hey guys,
which book in particular are you speaking of, I have been wanting to read Hay since reading all of the posts about her. Also, baseball, you said something that piqued my interest: "....and than I went into the same brain place I beat my pain....." Could you expound a bit on this? As I find your phrasology curious indeed. thanks!
Seth |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 02/28/2005 : 15:10:22
Hi Logan
I don't try to "think" too much,if you know what I mean.I "feel" she's right based on her corroboration with my own experience.The reason I would tend to believe her,is I have been really in great shape eating whatever and I've been overweight eating whatever.
I think her approach is not unlike a lot of other methods,she just catalogues her experiences and tries to be more specific than some others.
I pitched that book with gusto the first time I cracked the cover.....ME...read that new age BS??? Are you kidding?
However,when I got past her fruffiness,I realized she is VERY in order and her information is almost eerily correct.She sees all disease/syndrome as part of the spirit/emotional realm and believes any of them can be conquered.
I could look back through her logic and see how she was correct,that my childhood was a precursor to all the symptoms I suffered later.
One thing: I have not used her affirmations she recomends religiously...I just take the info she gives as a clue,and "Sarno-ize" it ,so to speak....i.e. The other day I was feeling like I was getting a sinus infection or cold or something.I looked up Sinus on her list,saw the mind-body link she has listed .It focused on minor irritations very close to you.
I felt great at the time...nothing was "irritating" me....and than I went into the same brain place I beat my pain.....
Baseball talking to Baseball: "OK....something is bugging me and it's totally repressed....it's gotta be close to the core...is it My Boss?(List on paper) ...Is it my wife? (list on paper)...is it my kids?(List on paper...BINGO !!!!
I realized that with the start of the new Baseball season,I was irritated that I had to spend 3 consecutive days off as MR. Mom,running them to tryouts,feeding and tending to their needs while I wanted to be learning a new recording program
Also,I had volunteered to do a couple of different things for the league,a church group and realized that I hadn't scheduled any down time...you know...vegetable time that we all need to simply think,read write...I felt harassed but was in no means visibly angry or in a rage(those might have produced some other deal)
....sinus problem evaporates as proof.
I still did all their stuff,I just kept in my mind that I felt put out(unacceptable) and that I will devote the next rainy day to the new software.
So,I view her book as a great resource...sort of like a head start on the paper work....I knew to look for minor irritations and where to look.If you had asked me on Thursday if I was irritated,I would have said "No"
Back to the weight issue...I have had many experiences in life where the healing happened by my ceasing to struggle.....If I could really and truly get to where I didn't care one way or the other,I imagine I would eat less or healthier and of course I would lose weight.However their is a profound paradox there....that I have as of yet not commandeered to my benefit.But,losing weight is not currently super high on my wish list...it might be in the near future(when Baseball season starts for me)
let me know what you think as you read
peace
Baseball65 |
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