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| mala |
Posted - 09/27/2012 : 21:25:02
A very good article that focuses on both body & mind. I know that the emphasis in TMS is the mind but I also feel that a balanced approach like the one mentioned in the article is important too & is likely to benefit more people.
I especially like the outcome. At the end of the article she says
Amanda says she knows she is not 'cured'. 'In fact physically I have deteriorated having developed arthritis in my back . But mentally I continue to improve – I am really positive and cheerful. I rarely take any painkillers at all – just the odd paracetamol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1276833/Eight-million-people-live-chronic-pain-But-combination-drugs-surgery-physio-psychological-treatment-beaten.html
Mala
Honestly, I sometimes really get fed up with my subconscious. It's like it's got a mind of its own.
Alexei Sayle
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| balto |
Posted - 09/29/2012 : 05:09:14
Mala, I didn't mean to compare success story with her. It is my clumsy way to say that we should aim higher, we can completely cure ourself from our chronic pain and anxiety. We don't have to suffer at all.
Yes, the lady had achieve much in her fight again her illness. No doubt about that.
Since you're interest in a "balance" approach, physical and psychological, you may want to check out this place in Hong Kong: http://www.imi.com.hk/anxiety.html , they maybe what you're looking for. In my opion, tms and anxiety are one .
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| mala |
Posted - 09/28/2012 : 18:56:23
Hi Bugbear & Balto.
Most people will never believe that their pain is purely psychological & does not have a structural problem. TMS purists are likely to scare these kind of people away whereas this approach at least puts the patients into a frame of mind where they are slowly educated to believe that the mind plays an important role in pain.
Also there are people who have had accidents that have left them in genuine physical disability & pain. To push hardcore TMS theory down their throats would not work at all. They will not listen.
Bugbear your story about yr cousin is very sad. Its so true how doctors keep giving you more & more & more drugs that cause terrible side effects & contraindicate each other. The few doctors that I have seen over the last year always end up giving me anti depressants or anti seizure pills like lyrica. 2 of them gave me one weeks supply without even mentioning the fact they take about 10 days to kick in, they have horrible side effects, & you have to wean off the drugs gradually. What are they thinking??? That kind of attitude pisses me off but it is also an indication of how the system is failing us. They have nothing else to offer except the latest drug on offer by big pharmaceuticals.
And you are so right about the isolation that these people feel. The fact that they can interact & be with & see other people who like them are in pain makes them feel not so alone. A bit like this forum. We all come here for the same reason. To interact, to learn, to feel less vulnerable.This is so important for the human spirit.
Balto sorry but IMHO the fact that the lady in the article is off those terrible drugs & manages her life with the help of the occasional panadol is a real success story no less than your own.
take care
Mala
Honestly, I sometimes really get fed up with my subconscious. It's like it's got a mind of its own.
Alexei Sayle
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| balto |
Posted - 09/28/2012 : 16:09:34
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Originally posted by mala
Amanda says she knows she is not 'cured'. 'In fact physically I have deteriorated having developed arthritis in my back . But mentally I continue to improve – I am really positive and cheerful. I rarely take any painkillers at all – just the odd paracetamol.
Thanks for the article Mala, but I still like my outcome better:
I am cure. My body is not deteriorate and I have no arthritis any where in my body. I Never take painkiller, not even paracetamol. I feel better now than I was in my 20. I slept like a baby every night. I eat anything I want to eat (well, except for thos frying insects I saw in Thailand) I go anywhere I feel like going. I do any activity I want to do with no restriction.
And all I did was accepted my tms/anxiety diagnosis and stop worry about my health.
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| Bugbear |
Posted - 09/28/2012 : 10:59:02
Hi Mala,
I think the Forbes article you posted elsewhere mentioned how most people will never accept that their pain does not have a structural cause. So for those people a more balanced approach could be the way forward.
I watched a programme on the BBC recently that showed glimpses of the 4 week residential programme at Guys. Participants were encouraged to engage in activities all the time, be they physical exercise or just socialising with the other participants. One of the underlying emotions common to TMS sufferers is isolation. By bringing pain sufferers together into a short term 'community' their feelings of isolation were eased. They learned to accept their pain rather than focus on or obsess over it.
The section about medication in this article when the author notes how some people can take different drugs at once, some of which could cancel others out, reminded me of my cousin who claimed to have severe pain after a car accident. She had surgery at least once and was on incapacity benefit. She went to various doctors over the course of many years. She was prescribed a whole range of drugs. At one point she was on a pain pump, the device used by late stage cancer patients, yet there was absolutely nothing wrong with her. Sadly she ended up with two contraindicated drugs and died prematurely of heart failure. She was living alone at the time, totally isolated from family and friends most of whom had given up on her.
So any programme that gets sufferers of pain off the drugs and back into their lives is a step in the right direction IMHO. |
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