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| MainEventMike |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 07:56:28
The other day I ordered several Dr. Sarno books to have on hand. My plan is to give to people who I think need it and would be receptive to it.
I was getting my emissions done a few days ago. The guy working there says out of the blue, "I wanted to ask your opinion on something. I've been asking people to get advice about this. I have this pain in my shoulder that won't go away." He goes on to describe his pain. I thought, "That's odd someone would just randomly ask a question like that." I told him he should go to a doctor to get it checked out. Then, I said, "have you been under a lot of stress lately?" He said that his job was creating stress and there were other things bothering him. I told him about Dr. Sarno and told him to get "Mindbody Prescription." I told him to keep an open mind about the book. He was very receptive about it.
I drove away and thought this was the perfect person to receive the first book. I went home and got the book and drove back to the emissions place and gave him the book. I told him it changed my life and I thought it might help him.....but, go see a doctor to rule out anything major. He was very surprised and appreciative.
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| Sarnotic-nerve |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 11:05:29
Nice one, Mike!!
I've actually found people to be pretty receptive to TMS/MBS when I suggest it. I've told family members, friends, friends of friends and colleagues. Many of them have actually been helped greatly by the books and programs.
When recommending someone look into TMS (Sarno's work), I think it's easy to sound like a trumpet for some magical healing power.
I simply tell the person my story and offer them some references. And then I never bring it up again....but THEY OFTEN DO!
I usually hear:
"Thanks for that info, it's helped my [insert pain]"
or
"Hey, those books are really interesting..."
One guy treats it like "Fight Club" or some secret. Every time I see him, he whispers something like, "Hey, that thing....well, so far so good...no foot pain at all!"
I also hear back from people who are "too busy", "too tired" or "suffering from 'real' back pain", with MRI's to prove it! Meanwhile, they're on the chrio's table every week.
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The pain is real! The cause...well, that's complicated. ;) |
| GMack |
Posted - 04/16/2012 : 10:43:43
I've given copies of HBP to about 6 people over the past decade, all of whom had similar pain stories to mine, all with perfectionist tendencies, etc., etc. None have ever told me they benefited from it. A couple of them I wish I hadn't even mentioned it because it strained our relationship. There's definitely a stigma attached to suggesting someone's problems may have any sort of psychological component. I remember when I got sober many years ago, I naively wanted to share my enthusiasm for my wonderful new way of life with all my hard-drinking friends. You can probably guess how many of my buddies were ready to get sober.
I suppose I'll keep offering the books if I run across someone who seems to have the classic TMS symptoms, just on the chance it could help one person like it helped me. But I won't expect it.
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| lynnl |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 16:49:07
Actually most horses will drink, in fact far too much. Mules on the other hand are smarter, they'll only drink when they need to. 
But that's neither here nor there... (sorry for the digression)
In the 14 or 15 years since I first learned about TMS I've told most everybody who seemed to be likely candidate. There haven't been more than 4 or 5 who expressed any interest, and only two that I know who followed up on it. The response is usually "...yeah, but mine is REAL pain.."
It has made me think that I must be the most unpersuasive person in the world. But I'm persistent, if nothing else.
Dr Sarno, in one the books offers the observation that it seems most people have to reach a point of total desperation before they'll entertain the notion of a mental or pschological cause for their misery.
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| andy64tms |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 14:07:59
Hi Mike,
Whenever I see your name I see someone who is not afraid to look into themselves. He must have sensed this also, and was comfortable asking for your opinion. Well done.
Recently I came across the husband of my wife’s new friend when we all went out for her retirement lunch. He had TMS written all over him, and was literally leaning on his wife for the whole meal. He was so high on anti-depressants and pain killers that he could not utter a sentence. I felt for him, and later on that week his story unraveled when she expressed deep concern for him at our house.
As an IT manager he was found wondering in the company’s parking lot. He had had a nervous breakdown, and was put on disability for 5 or 6 years when he was forced to take early S/S at 62. His wife still working, he has withdrawn from society, except for visits to accommodating surgeons and doctors who deal out his meds. His wife has just retired to find out that he has been sleeping in until mid-day for the past 10 years, and she jokingly commented to us that he had complained to his doctor that she was the biggest stress in his life now that she is home all day.
I ordered “Unlearn your pain”, as I think they both need it. By all accounts she has had many unsuccessful back and neck surgeries, and recently went through a very rough time with an arrogant CEO who she was secretary to.
So who do I give it to? Actually I have commandeered my wife to pass it on to her friend. The idea is that she will leave it around the house for him to pick up casually. I will ask my wife to passively suggest to her to read the introduction, so that she has a basic understanding. My odds are then doubled that it may help either of them. Crafty, don’t you think?
Furthering Bugbear's comment, we have two horses to lead to water.I hope they are thirsty. Wish us luck?
Andy
Past TMS Experience in 2000, with success.
Now on Day 12 Wiki Edu.
Charlie horse on neck for 20 years. (to be evicted soon.)
Books: Healing Back Pain
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| Bugbear |
Posted - 04/15/2012 : 12:55:16
That was very thoughtful of you, Mike. Yes, it was rather random of your mechanic mentioning his pain. He must have had an intuition that you were the one to tell.
I have lent MBP to a few friends. One read it but I don't think she saw herself on every page and just remarked that it was interesting. Another friend said she wasn't in a reading mood. The third one said she would be ordering her own copy. I dropped Sarno's name in the middle of a thread on another totally unrelated forum. One person replied that she would look out for his books. I guess you can lead a horse to water but they have to take the drink.
By the way, I really enjoyed your blog. |
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