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| taxman |
Posted - 02/27/2012 : 16:28:34
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and I was wondering if someone could help me. I just finished listening to Sarno's audiobook, "The Mindbody Prescription" and was amazed at his wonderful insight. What he asserts seems to make so much sense and I agree with him.
18 months ago, I was hit with an inner ear infection (acute labrynthitis) which gave me severe vertigo. After a few weeks, things calmed down but ever since then, I have been suffering from dizzy/imbalance feelings and fatigue. My physiotherapist says it's vestibular neuritis (damage to the inner ear) so it's permanent but my brain needs to learn to compensate. It's slowly getting more manageable but I can't be out in malls, etc for extended periods as I start getting dizzy! Totally wiped out too! Is this TMS? Can I "wish" it away by yelling at my mind?
I would love to know what you all think!
Thank you
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| taxman |
Posted - 03/04/2012 : 07:24:13
Wonderful!! Thanks, Tom! |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 03/03/2012 : 18:38:01
No trouble whatsoever Taxman, mine just came and it looks very tantalizing, can't wait to crack into it:
"THE GREAT PAIN DECEPTION : Faulty Medical Advice Is Making Us Worse" by Steven Ray Ozanich
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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti
"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown
"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst
"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
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TMS PRACTITIONERS:
John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035
Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm
Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/page/Find+a+TMS+Doctor+or+Therapist
Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
| taxman |
Posted - 03/03/2012 : 18:16:48
I don't want to cause any trouble but what was the name of Steve's book! I want to order it. At least if someone could tell me his last name I could search Amazon.
Thanks!
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| taxman |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 20:44:47
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Originally posted by tennis tom
[quote]Originally posted by taxman
Question, is your physiotherapist an ear specialist? If not how would he/she know the damage is permanent? That's a very powerful NOCEBO to be laying on anyone. My brother had a severe ear infection this past year and he is totally 100% healed from it now. It was very weird, I took him to his personal doctor and he was so vertigoed he was hanging onto the walls, I had to hold him up and nearly carry him into his doc's office he was so disoriented. Should have had a wheel-chair, but doc's offices don't have them around. His doc dx'ed it accurately and said take him to the ER. Leaned that doc's aren't equipped to treat immediate trauma any more, too busy dealing with mostly TMS in the waiting room. So get another opinion before you get saddled with that "permanent damage" nocebo.
Hi Tom,
Yes, my physiotherapist specializes in vestibular disorders. After a bunch of tests, one of which "video tapes" my eye movement, she concluded I my nystagmus is definitely due to a damaged nerve which is vestibular neuritis. I am seeing an ENT in a few months (good ol' Canadian Health care system which takes forever to see a specialist) to confirm her findings.
She said it can last for a long time, the symptoms of imbalance, fatigue, etc as my brain must compensate for the balance. Like your brother, I also had crazy vertigo thing and alas, it's been 18 months of annoying hell.
That said, I am of the firm belief that anything can be cured and I refuse to let anyone nocebo me but I need to learn how to break the behaviour patterns and I am trying to do this through meditation, gigong and maintaining an active lifestyle of playing sports like badminton.
My physiotherapist has given me great exercises which help a lot but I am conflicted because Dr. Sarno says to abandon such treatment in favour of following his principles.
Totally confused.
So what is the right thing to do? I will continue to meditate and I am telling myself everyday (3 days now since reading his "Mindbody Prescription" book that it's ALL PSYCHOLOGICAL, NOT PHYSICAL!!
I find such solace in those words! Now I want to find freedom in them.  |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 18:56:24
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Originally posted by tmsjptc
Wanted to comment on my osteopath experience too. I went to one for cranial-sacral and was getting relief. But, I now realize it was because she was so good at getting me to talk about what was bothering me and how I felt. The treatment would take like an hour so there was plenty of time to talk. I now believe the relief I got wasn't from the cranial-sacral stuff but rather from just talking through my stressors.
Yup, I had a great cranial-sacral treatment once, a great emotional release, made me cry, could feel a total release from one end of my spine to the other. Tried a C-S session from a different practitioner and nada, nothing. I also realized it was the skill of the practitioner to connect that made the difference. This is probably why some people swear by their chiro, or other form of bodyworker. They've created a close bond/friendship providing some soothing on a and temporary escape from the TMS muscular tension. Along the way you buy things from them like BlueGreen Algae, Chinese herbal supplements by the barrel, Chi machines, etc.--they have a captive audience. |
| tmsjptc |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 12:37:17
I had the vertigo/dizziness stuff too. Doesn't sound as severe as you explained though. It would last for a week or so and I'd get it about every 2-3 months. I didn't focus on this aspect but noticed through my TMS treatment that it has gone away.
Wanted to comment on my osteopath experience too. I went to one for cranial-sacral and was getting relief. But, I now realize it was because she was so good at getting me to talk about what was bothering me and how I felt. The treatment would take like an hour so there was plenty of time to talk. I now believe the relief I got wasn't from the cranial-sacral stuff but rather from just talking through my stressors.
Then, I moved and found another osteopath. This one doesn't do cranial-sacral and is just a general practitioner. But, I figured from my first experience that osteopaths are great. I was wrong. This one immediately ordered xrays and told me I had problems and wanted to put me on Cymbalta. Fortunately, I had just read the first of Sarno's books and when she told me the xray results and how I was a walking time-bomb, I literally laughed and said thanks but no thanks. I haven't been back to see her and I'm feeling great now! |
| rbart4506 |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 11:03:46
Yes!
I was having this issue with my osteopath...
To complicate my back issue slightly, the ER doc found a stray surgical clip my lower abdomen when x-rays were taken. The radiologist classified it as incidental and my family doctor dismissed it and told me not to worry about it...It was not related to the back issue...
My osteopath could not get past that and seemed to always focus on it. To the point that she was making comments that were having a negative affect on my mind-body work.
She decided that my should got to appointments every second week and said that's good and may stretch it if the pain is diminishing. She commented back stating 'I don't think that will be the case'. She also went on to comment that if the clip comprised the peritoneal membrane that I might end up loosing the ability to eat solid food! WTH was that! She hadn't even seen an x-ray, how she make a comment like that...
I walked out and vowed never to return...
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 02/28/2012 : 09:54:23
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Originally posted by taxman
My physiotherapist says it's vestibular neuritis (damage to the inner ear) so it's permanent but my brain needs to learn to compensate.
Question, is your physiotherapist an ear specialist? If not how would he/she know the damage is permanent? That's a very powerful NOCEBO to be laying on anyone. My brother had a severe ear infection this past year and he is totally 100% healed from it now. It was very weird, I took him to his personal doctor and he was so vertigoed he was hanging onto the walls, I had to hold him up and nearly carry him into his doc's office he was so disoriented. Should have had a wheel-chair, but doc's offices don't have them around. His doc dx'ed it accurately and said take him to the ER. Leaned that doc's aren't equipped to treat immediate trauma any more, too busy dealing with mostly TMS in the waiting room. So get another opinion before you get saddled with that "permanent damage" nocebo.
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| taxman |
Posted - 02/27/2012 : 19:24:50
Thanks, Steve.
It's hard for me to separate the physical from the psychological here because the dizzy/fatigue/anxiety/headaches "pain" is in my head yet if these are manifested in my "head", how do I deal with that? So tough!!
Any other books by Sarno you suggest I read? I am curious about yours! Where may I buy it?
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