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| jaya |
Posted - 02/16/2012 : 05:25:22
an interesting read:
http://breathingretraining.com/Hyperventilation%20and%20anxiety%20state.pdf
check out last paragraph on 3rd page
also, note date on article |
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| SteveO |
Posted - 02/16/2012 : 15:59:27
You're talking about the 2002 Baylor knee study with Moseley doing all the surgeries. It was an OA study that proved knee surgery for OA was worthless. Those who received the sham surgery healed just as fast as the surgery group but within the surgery group some people got worse through the loss of objective range of motion, much like the 1994 HHS services survery showed regarding back surgery.
Healing comes from within, sometimes we need a little help, but it's rare.
SO |
| lynnl |
Posted - 02/16/2012 : 13:15:45
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Originally posted by jaya
others on the forum know that im a chronic hyperventilator-so this article kinda nailed it for me
jaya[quote]Originally posted by jaya
an interesting read:
I'm sort of at other end of the spectrum. I tend to hold my breath and/or breath too shallow.
But as to your other point, almost every day I see or read something, about this medical study or that one, in which I can see the TMS factor at work.
One particular study several years ago, that I remember, dealt with arthroscopic knee surgery. It was a large, well funded study at some prestigious institute. In one group they actualy performed the surgical procedure intended; in the other group they simply made the incision on the unconscious patient but did nothing further. Lo and behold, the control group who had only the exterior incision collectively had slightly better results than the group receiving the "real" operation. As I recall, the difference was not deemed statistically significant, but it sure called into question the effectiveness of that particular surgical procedure.
Lynn |
| jaya |
Posted - 02/16/2012 : 12:13:53
the vast majority are perfectionists-this was written by a doctor from the"other" side-the tms theory shines through even in the 80's-you almost never see mainstream medical ever write this today-like they swept it under the rug
others on the forum know that im a chronic hyperventilator-so this article kinda nailed it for me
jayaquote:
Originally posted by jaya
an interesting read:
http://breathingretraining.com/Hyperventilation%20and%20anxiety%20state.pdf
check out last paragraph on 3rd page
also, note date on article
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| lynnl |
Posted - 02/16/2012 : 10:19:30
I guess I'm missing your point.
Lynn |
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