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| joan |
Posted - 10/29/2011 : 09:20:58
Can anyone help me as I have never been depreseed sice this ongoing pain 24/7 Has any anti depressants worked for anyone while going through this process..was a sarno patient cured of back pain 100%.he now charges 1300.00 for a visit..Could anyone think of whar i could be doing wrong,,Have to say still wonder if this is physical |
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| Darko |
Posted - 10/31/2011 : 21:17:14
Joan,
I have suffered heaps of depression from the pain. It's not until I actually surrender to it that I get better. However I also have in the past taken 5HTP combined with L-Tyrosine. It's natural, easy to get and as good, if not better than the chemical stuff.
Read up on it....it helped me when I needed it. I have posted about it many times
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| balto |
Posted - 10/31/2011 : 20:32:50
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Originally posted by joan
..Could anyone think of whar i could be doing wrong,,Have to say still wonder if this is physical
I think you've just answer your own question there.
You think physical that's why the pain the symptoms stay with you. |
| kesh2 |
Posted - 10/30/2011 : 08:41:30
I have depression, am taking citalopram now, and hydroxyzine. I got depression because of pain, or at least after months of pain, and especially the fear of chronic pain. But according to tms, I got the pain because of the psychological, not vice versa.
It has helped lessen the lows and the fears, though not at all completely. I was suicidal, now I'm coping. I think this is ok as I have to confront fears and feelings if I'm to do the tms cure.
The pain has lessened under anti-depressants. There are specific anti depressants that also help with chronic pain, though I'm not on these.
Pain perception is closely tied with depression. People with depression have four times as much back pain as the non-depressed. One would think this medically accepted fact would make doctors realise that 3/4 of back pain is emotional/psychological.
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| MatthewNJ |
Posted - 10/29/2011 : 20:13:49
Joan,
I noted you said "was a sarno patient cured of back pain 100%.he now charges 1300.00 for a visit". When I was his patient (I actually still consider myself his patient) he saw me multiple times over a few years. There was only ever the initial charge. Maybe that changed.
Oh, and right after I posted my post of 10/29/2011 : 13:05:04, I moderated a Peer Support Drop-In Chat on the TMS wiki (we do them every saturday at 3:00 go to TMSwiki.org) and the depression subject came up. One of the folks asked if anyone else had gotten depressed with the TMS pain, and EVERYONE had! 100% There were 6 or 7 of us in on the chat!!! So, not a large sampling from a statistics point of view, but very interesting results.
And I totally agree with wrldtrv, Exercise is cheap (free if you just walk around your neighborhood) non invasive, doesn't interfere with any other modalities including medication, and it's healthy! and while you are out there, check out nauture. The color changes this year have been phenomena!
Matthew
Ferretsx3@comcast.net
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Less activated, more regulated and more resilient. |
| wrldtrv |
Posted - 10/29/2011 : 19:40:16
By all means, if anti-depressants can help you to get through this tough time, use them. The question is "if." First, starting from scratch, they take a few weeks to become effective. Second, that particular med may or may not be effective for you or may be only partially effective. I have been on lexapro for a couple of years and celexa before that. Each seemed to be effective to a very moderate degree (maybe better than nothing), but certainly no panacea. Believe me, I can--and do--still spiral into extreme anxiety and depression on a regular basis. Fortunately, I bounce back quickly.
I have never tried anything other than the ssri's. Another class of meds might be more effective for me, but I'd rather not go down that road. Too complicated.
Something you can try immediately (no side effects either) is regular exercise if you're not already doing it. Not only good for your mood, but relaxes you, which also decreases pain. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 10/29/2011 : 18:11:54
I got some nice relief from a mild dose of Celexa a few years back. There is evidence in the TMS literature for positive results from small doses of anti-depressants. Since TMS originates in the mind, it makes perfect sense that anti-depressants could be beneficial. Dr. Sarno does not think patients should suffer excruciating pain in silence, he prescribes meds when needed.
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TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html |
| MarkD |
Posted - 10/29/2011 : 10:57:25
I have thinking the same thing, because the pain causes depression and anxiety for me. I haven't taken the plunge but I have been told cimbalta or lexipro could do the trick. I don't like the thought of all the side effects. I am trying to suffer through the pain while I cure the TMS symptoms |
| altherunner |
Posted - 10/29/2011 : 10:46:07
I have been taking niacin to lower high cholesterol, which really worked much better than statin drugs for me ( they made me very ill).
Niacin is used also as a treatment for depression, and I noticed a feeling of well being when I take it. You have to take the regular niacin that causes flushing, which goes away after taking it for a few days. You can google the life long research of Dr. Abram Hoffer,
he discovered it's ability to lower cholesterol by accident,while treating patients with depression. The "Doctor Yourself" website also has information on natural treatments for depression. |
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