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| bryan3000 |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 18:22:50
First off, if this thread has already been created, please forgive me.
But, I thought it might be interesting...
I absolutely love to hear the things people "say" to their brains. I'm a believer that this is big part of healing.
I was thinking on this thread... some of you more experienced TMS'ers might give us some examples of what you say to your brain? Maybe an example of a situation... specifically or in an ongoing situation?
Someone just gave an example of what they would say on the sneeze thread. Would love to hear more real world examples, the kinds of language you use... is it out loud or in your head? Do you ever yell at your brain, or do you try to smooth-talk your brain? :)
Thanks in advance for any contributions.
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-1/2010 - Developed chronic sinus problems. ENTs/Docs can't find anything
-5/29/2010 - Doc gives cocktail of allergy meds which induces first ever panic attack/anxiety.
-7/16/2010 - Anxiety stays/worsens - put on Xanax
2/1/2011 - Began Xanax taper - Withdrawal starts - full body chaos
-6/11/2011 - Last dose of Xanax. Physical/emotional chaos continues for several months.
-Now: Taking it day by day, looking for real answers and ways to heal myself without medical poison. |
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| Wavy Soul |
Posted - 09/21/2011 : 21:42:24
the thing is when you give 'em two weeks to pack up and leave it never happens!!
Out! NOW!
Reminds me of an early live Eddie Murphy riff ("Raw?"), in which he's discussing The Exorcist, and the part where the girl's head goes round 360 and a deep voice shouts "GET! OUT!" He says, "Black folks are like, Uh hunh, we outa here! But white folks stay and try to reason with the dude. You know, you've just got to GET! OUT!"
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
| Wavy Soul |
Posted - 09/21/2011 : 21:11:15
the thing is when you give 'em two weeks to pack up and leave it never happens!!
Out! NOW!
Reminds me of an early live Eddie Murphy riff ("Raw?"), in which he's discussing The Exorcist, and the part where the girl's head goes round 360 and a deep voice shouts "GET! OUT!" He says, "Black folks are like, Uh hunh, we outa here! But white folks stay and try to reason with the dude. You know, you've just got to GET! OUT!"
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
| golden_girl |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 17:14:41
GOOD FOR YOU HEELS! GOOD FOR YOU! I loved your post 
"F.E.A.R.
Forgive Everyone And Remember
For Everything A Reason"
Ian Brown |
| heelsdown |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 10:23:13
Hi, I haven't posted on here in a while, mostly because I've been fine and don't need the board. I should probably write a success story. But I was bored and came on.
Anyway, I saw this topic and remembered a "conversation with your tms" journaling exercise I had done a while ago and thought it was appropriate. Here goes:
Me: Hi TMS. I really f-ing wish you would go away.
Tms: Well, it seems to me then that I am doing my job, if you feel so strongly about me!
Me: Ughh. Yeah I guess you are right. Well, let me tell you. You’re annoying, but now I know who you are and why you are here. You’re not tricking me anymore and I am going to get rid of the pain and think about all my emotional issues and unconscious rage.
Tms: Nooooo, don’t think about the emotional issues! They are too painful!!! And if you express them, people may not like you as much!
Me: So what. I think that is worth it if it means I have less pain and it helps me be more aware of myself and a better person!
Tms: fine, do what you like, but you know I’m not gonna leave without a fight. I’m good at what I do, especially with you. Common, eating disorder since you were 12? Depression? Thinking about suicide? Now, you had to go and take some stupid antidepressants and work on fixing your eating. And then had a huge life change with lots of stress! I had no choice but you give you foot pain. I couldn’t possibly let you think about all those bad things you were feeling. That would have ruined you! I was only doing you a favor, and still am trying to. You should thank me.
Me: ok well, thank you. Your intentions are good I guess. You are trying to help me. But I think you sound a little like **name of a past friend**. Good intentions, but going about it the whole wrong way. Betraying my trust. Not thinking about what actually might be helpful to me. Just getting scared and taking the first frantic actions you think of.
Tms: That is harsh. I only care about you. But can you forgive me, for maybe doing things that hurt you more, even though my intentions were good?
Me: Well, I can forgive you, but I will never trust you again.
Tms: :::looking sad:::
Me: It really is time for you to go. I am thinking about what I am trying to hide. Uncomfortable feelings and all. Realizing it is okay if there is anger inside of me. And I WILL NOT LET YOU DISTRACT ME ANY MORE!!!!
Tms: Well, I still care about you and will try to help you.
Me: Ugh, I know you will. Good intentions. Bad plan of action. But I’m wise to it now. And you know, all those bad emotions don’t scare me anymore! They are there and they are okay to feel. So there is nothing to protect me from, really.
Tms: hmmm, when you put it that way… interesting. If you know it is okay to feel rage and anger and sadness and discomfort, then I don’t need to protect you from them?
Me: nope, you don’t! Really! I am FINE!
Tms: oh. Well. Uhh. I feel like a mothers who’s kids just left for college. What do I do now?
Me: I don’t know. Hang around. Knit. Pick up some new hobbies? You can still live within me, as long as you don’t interfere with my life and try to distract me from things.
Tms: Interesting proposition. I’m not sure if I want to stay if there is no work for me, but I will think about it.
Me: You know, yeah, maybe it would be best if you left? Because I don’t want you getting bored and temped to “help” me again. I’m not trying to be mean, just thinking about what might be best for both of us.
Tms: You know, I think you are right. I should probably leave. Maybe I will find someone else who really does need my help right now.
Me: Ok, you should do that. How about I give you two weeks to pack up and leave? During which time you need to try really hard to not interfere with my life? And then you need to be gone and into a new home.
Tms: ok, that sounds fair to me! Well, it’s been good working with you.
Me: Thank you tms, I know all you were ever trying to do was help. But it is time to move on and we will both be better off without eachother right now. Work on packing up! I will do whatever I can to help you.
Tms: Thanks, I will let you know. And I will try to get of here as soon as I can.
Me: Good plan, you tricky TMS you.
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| bryan3000 |
Posted - 09/17/2011 : 15:41:14
Nice, Joy! 
Yea, I'm just guessing that my unconscious responds better to upbeat input than threats, though... we'll have to see how it goes.
I was out having a nice morning with my little girl today and got sort of a chemical blast of anxiety/depressive feeling. So, I'm working on keeping on with my day, not letting it sidetrack me and trying to give my brain the indication that I know what it's up to, and that it's not going to work.
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-1/2010 - Developed chronic sinus problems. ENTs/Docs can't find anything
-5/29/2010 - Doc gives cocktail of allergy meds which induces first ever panic attack/anxiety.
-7/16/2010 - Anxiety stays/worsens - put on Xanax
2/1/2011 - Began Xanax taper - Withdrawal starts - full body chaos
-6/11/2011 - Last dose of Xanax. Physical/emotional chaos continues for several months.
-Now: Taking it day by day, looking for real answers and ways to heal myself without medical poison. |
| Joy_I_Am |
Posted - 09/14/2011 : 02:50:50
I always try to do it with a little humour - 'You're havin' a laugh, ain't ya?!' Or 'Get the hell outta here!' (in a funny voice). Or 'If you don't come out of there, I'm going to come in and tickle you out!'
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| Wavy Soul |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 21:15:54
"Hey, you are here (symptom) taking the place of that other symptom! Gotcha! Ha ha ha!!"
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
| bryan3000 |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 14:09:26
quote:
Originally posted by MarkD
I also have a friend that suffers from TMS who says to her brain when she has a pain, "I don't have time for this"
she says it usually works...
lol! I would have never thought of that one.
These are all great answers. Particularly love hearing situational stories. (What to say at a certain time, with a certain kind of pain.)
Btw, I'd assume all of our internal dialogue would be different. Right now, I'm sort of approaching my brain like a child I want to be stern with, but not abusive. ("I know what you're trying to do, but this isn't necessary and we need to put an end to it and work this out another way," etc.)
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-1/2010 - Developed chronic sinus problems. ENTs/Docs can't find anything
-5/29/2010 - Doc gives cocktail of allergy meds which induces first ever panic attack/anxiety.
-7/16/2010 - Anxiety stays/worsens - put on Xanax
2/1/2011 - Began Xanax taper - Withdrawal starts - full body chaos
-6/11/2011 - Last dose of Xanax. Physical/emotional chaos continues for several months.
-Now: Taking it day by day, looking for real answers and ways to heal myself without medical poison. |
| MarkD |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 09:46:54
I amend my comment because I like what balto wrote. Thank you!
"Don't acknowledge the pain, but focus on the moment in your life" |
| balto |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 08:58:04
quote:
Originally posted by MarkD
I say to myself, "Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
Sometimes it helps bring me back into focus on what i should be concentrating on.
I have a tendancy to focus on the pain and not what may be causing the pain. In fact I am doing that right now. I have pain down my leg that keeps me from walking more than one or two city blocks without having to crouch down or take a seat. It is brutal. What I need to do now is focus on what is going on in my life that is causing the pain: my two year old daughter, work, new house, new mortgage, etc.
I know I can beat this if i focus on the cause and not the pain, but when its really painful, I tend to get lost.
"Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
"Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
"Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
I don't think it is possible to stop focusing on your pain. It is there, it hurts like hell and your mind will not stop thinking about the pain. Like if man saw a beautiful woman walking by in bikini, how can he not looking at her. She is there, she is obvious, there is no way he can stop himself from not focusing on her. I think it is more important to acknowledge the pain, accept the fact that it will be there for sometime until you can figure out a way to not fear it, not scare of it or what it can do to your body.
I once told myself hey, I have sciatica nerve pain, I can't walk for long but I know that it is not dangerous and it won't be here for long. I am not scare of it, I have no fear of it. I let it stay for a while. I will be gone when my everday problems are either solve or accepted by me. |
| MarkD |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 08:16:27
I also have a friend that suffers from TMS who says to her brain when she has a pain, "I don't have time for this"
she says it usually works... |
| MarkD |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 08:15:18
I say to myself, "Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
Sometimes it helps bring me back into focus on what i should be concentrating on.
I have a tendancy to focus on the pain and not what may be causing the pain. In fact I am doing that right now. I have pain down my leg that keeps me from walking more than one or two city blocks without having to crouch down or take a seat. It is brutal. What I need to do now is focus on what is going on in my life that is causing the pain: my two year old daughter, work, new house, new mortgage, etc.
I know I can beat this if i focus on the cause and not the pain, but when its really painful, I tend to get lost.
"Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
"Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
"Don't focus on the pain, focus on the moment in your life"
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 08:07:12
DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g |
| golden_girl |
Posted - 09/13/2011 : 06:20:58
There are people who think you should shout at your brain, there are others who think you should be kind to your brain and treat it like a child - there are others still who believe the best option is to do both, depending on the situation.
I think the crux of 'TMS' is our internal dialogue. Very slowly, I'm finally starting to realise the bajillions of negative thoughts that go through my head every second of every day, and how very poisonous that really is. Re-framing, repudiating, re-assessing these thoughts - it's all part of the process. It makes total sense that what you put in, you get out.
A great book (yes, yet another one  ) is What To Say When You Talk To Yourself by Shad Helmstetter (he does sometimes use ten words when he could use one, but it has brilliant examples of exactly what the title is).
Search on the forum for Darko, he's recovered from TMS and made some great posts on "talking to yourself".
"F.E.A.R.
Forgive Everyone And Remember
For Everything A Reason"
Ian Brown |
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