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tennis tom Posted - 01/28/2005 : 11:41:29
Dear Mala,

I was wondering if your experiences with the Tsunami, had any impacts on your TMS?

Regards,
tt
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mala Posted - 02/01/2005 : 00:06:56
Absolutely. When i first atrted doing EFT, I thought it was a bit silly and felt quite self conscious about doing the tapping. However, with time I began to notice that with practice I was tapping away quite furiously and bringing up emotional stuff quite unconciously and even effortlessly. Now there are times when I almost reach a focused meditative state and it really feels good to get things out.

Good Luck & Good Health
Mala
Mobius Posted - 01/31/2005 : 23:26:38
Thanks for the compliment Mala. The EFT training video that I have depicts how therapists can use it to dig out emotional issues that are the causative factors behind pain syndromes and they make the connection between emotions and physical symptoms. They may start the initial tapping for pain which a very general symptom but then they have you try to sense what the pain is such as Anger and then they tap for Anger and it seems to open up more emotional responses. It seems to be a terrific tool for really digging out the deeply repressed emotions that are at the root of TMS. I don't think that EFT was originally designed for TMS in particular but it looks like an excellent channel to pursue. Keep up the good work and stick with that great strategy that you outlined in your original post.

Be well. Mobius
mala Posted - 01/31/2005 : 20:27:27
When it comes to the machinations of the human mind you are dealing with many shadowy areas and much is still unknown and cannot be tested or proven. I try to maintain an open mind when it comes to various theories that might prove helpful and have decided that if they work for me then I don't really need to know or have it proven to me throught scientific studies how or why it does or doesn't work, especially where it involves such uncharted and unknown aspects of the mind. Thank God for Dr. Sarno and his pioneering efforts with TMS. Less than 10% of the general public probably belives in his concept but he hasn't allowed this to slow him down and his "Information Cure" flies in the face of his medical critics. Just my opinion. Mobius

Thank you Mobius for that especially that last bit about Sarno. You have expressed exactly how I feel but have done it better that I could ever have.

Good Luck & Good Health
Mala
Mobius Posted - 01/31/2005 : 19:18:17
Mala - Thanks for providing me with the info I requested on EFT. It is most appreciated.

Dave - Thanks for the scientific data on TFT, but also be aware that lots of theories clash with "scientific knowledge". When it comes to the machinations of the human mind you are dealing with many shadowy areas and much is still unknown and cannot be tested or proven. I try to maintain an open mind when it comes to various theories that might prove helpful and have decided that if they work for me then I don't really need to know or have it proven to me throught scientific studies how or why it does or doesn't work, especially where it involves such uncharted and unknown aspects of the mind. Thank God for Dr. Sarno and his pioneering efforts with TMS. Less than 10% of the general public probably belives in his concept but he hasn't allowed this to slow him down and his "Information Cure" flies in the face of his medical critics. Just my opinion. Mobius
mala Posted - 01/31/2005 : 17:41:58
Different strokes for different folks.
One man's meat is another man's poison.
Don't knock it till you've tried it.


Can't and won't believe everything critics say and there will always be cynics. It is the same for sarno and tms.


Good Luck & Good Health
Mala
Dave Posted - 01/31/2005 : 07:49:56
FWIW, From QuackWatch.Org, http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mentserv.html

Thought Field Therapy (TFT)

TFT's founder, psychologist Roger J. Callahan, Ph.D., claims that TFT "provides a code to nature's healing system. . . . addresses their fundamental causes, balancing the body's energy system and allowing you to eliminate most negative emotions within minutes and promote the body's own healing ability." ...

TFT is claimed to be nearly 100% effective in treating depression, phobias, and other psychologic problems. It is based on the notion that acupressure points are related to blockages ("perturbations") of "body energy" associated with physical or emotional illness. Proponents claim that the finger-tapping releases the blockages and increases to the body's energy flow...

Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), developed by a Callahan disciple named Gary Craig, is said to be a simpler version of TFT that works more quickly...

Critics have noted that TFT's underlying theories clash with established scientific knowledge and that studies alleging benefit have been poorly designed. In 1999, the Arizona Board of Psychologist Examiners reprimanded a psychologist for using TFT and voice technology in his psychology practice and the American Psychological Association's Continuing Education Committee notified CE providers that TFT courses will no longer be approved for continuing education credits. For further information, visit http://www.geocities.com/pseudoscience_2000/.
mala Posted - 01/30/2005 : 18:08:37
Hi Mobius,

I satarted seeing a therapist last year. In the very first session we had, I told her about the pain I was having and she taught me how to do EFT. She said something like 'you may think this is crazy but wait till you feel the results' which were immediate. She then gave me a VCD whch I went home and watched. After 4 sessions she told me I really didn't need therapy but I still do the EFT.

Next I started looking for more info on the internet and I came across this site

http://www.mercola.com/forms/eftcourse.htm

Dr. Mercola also mentions Craig but I just follow Mercola's basic course (9 points) which is free on the web and quite comprehensive. You can start by scrolling down to the bottom of the page and take it from there at your own pace.

I found that it is good to do it everyday at least 2 to 3 times and I found that it is good to tap hard at the points. It is quick and effective.

Hope this helps.

Take care.


Good Luck & Good Health
Mala
Mobius Posted - 01/30/2005 : 16:48:30
Hello Mala,

I too like your strategies, especially the one where you do all the things that would trigger the pain. That's what I call "In Your Face" and it does work. But what really caught my eye was your mention of EFT. I got a VHS EFT Training Video from Wendi Friesen about 6 months before I encountered TMS and although I did not have a lot of success with it, I felt that it had a great deal of promise. I didn't think about resurrecting it for the TMS until I saw your post. She teaches a shorter version of it and uses just the basic 9 points. I went to the Gary Craig website and noticed that he has a more elaborate system with the hum deal and all. Before I try it out again I would like to know which version works for you on the TMS specifically and your view of EFT in general. As EFT may not be known to most of the folks on the forum or be of interest to them, you may want to communicate the info to me thru this website. Thanks again for your wonderful post.

Bobius
tennis tom Posted - 01/30/2005 : 09:37:13
Thanks for the reply Mala. It sounds like you have a good strategy for dealing with TMS. I hope your friends effected by the tragic tsunami can get their lives back together soon. It is good of you to try to help them. It is nice that you have so many friends who were concerned about your well-being.

Best Wishes,
tt
mala Posted - 01/29/2005 : 19:05:51
Hi Tom,

Hope you are doing well. To answer your question, I think it has impacted me in a positive way if anything. We were very lucky that we were not hurt but I saw how badly others suffered. If you remember, I told you I saw some dead bodies and many relatives overcome with grief at the sudden loss of their dear ones that very first day of the tsunami on the beach in Penang. Then I saw all the images on tv and the media and understood the scale of this tragedy. I thought then how insignificant this pain of mine is compared to what has happened around me and how lucky I really am.

Hours after the tsunami event we started getting phone calls from friends from all over the world. This lasted for many days. When we came back to HK our answer phone was full with messages from yet more people some of whom tried to get hold of the Britsh Consulate for news. My kids at school got together and had a prayer meeting to pray for my safety (even though we are not of the same religion). My laundry lady who has been doing our laundry for the last 8 years burst into tears of joy and ran to give me a big hug when I went to collect the laundry. I was overwhelmed and touched. I was lucky, others were not.


We had a Sri Lankan domestic helper who worked and lived with us for six years. Her husband, 2 daughters and parents depended on her financially. She returned to Sri Lanka the year before last and was able to buy some land and build a house on the money she had earned here. She had also invested in a 14 seater van which her husband drove to make a living. The tsunami destroyed everything. Luckily, her family are OK. I am now thinking of ways to help her get back on her feet.

One of my husband's ex army buddies is still missing. He was in Phuket.

When I see what has happened I realise that I am very lucky indeed and always have been . I have decided I am going to spend even less time on focussing on my own pain and more time on helping others.

For the last six months , my strategy has been to have 100% faith in tms. The way I deal with it is:

-to absolutely pay no attention to any pain that I may have. I just say to myself 'I know you are tms and harmless'
-to do things that are supposed to cause pain, sit for hours, lift my nephew who is four and a half years old. Remain active. I have been out dancing again the last 2 nights.
- drink a glass of red wine every evening.
-say a prayer every day to my God to thank him for all that I have.
- do EFT (Emotional Freedom technique) twice a day.

To this list, I am going to add one more thing and that is use some of my time, energy and resources on others. It is the least I can do and it will help me to focus less on 'me'.

Take care Tom







Good Luck & Good Health
Mala

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