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shannclapp Posted - 05/10/2011 : 07:16:02
Yesterday I had a big mothers day lunch planned with my mom. Woke up with my teeth aching worse than usual and although I beleive i have TMs, i kept telling myself it was from my allergies & the pollen. All day miserable in pain but telling myself allergies.
But I know in hindsight it has to do with being around my mom, I love her dont get me worng! But she is very negative and her and I are not emotionally connected, hard to explain. I have always attributed it to her having MS and being sort of out of it. MMMMM.
So I think I am not better because I still keep thinking physical! I say yes it is TMS but at worst it is my allergies, maybe I should go the allergy Dr, maybe I need sinus surgery and so the cycle goes on!!!!!!! But at least I noticed it last night!
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Javizy Posted - 05/11/2011 : 08:25:38
It sounds like mindfulness would help you a lot. I started learning it recently with the book Full Catastrophe Living. It's basically about training your awareness, and learning to live in the present, rather than the past or future (what tends to happen when we're unconsciously controlled by our thoughts). The book itself actually makes a lot of great mindbody arguments too, and I found it a lot more convincing than The Mindbody Prescription.

When you were with your mother, what was your heart rate like? How was the circulation to your arms? Did you have butterflies in your stomach? Were you breathing regularly? Were you responding reasonably to stressors, or habitually reacting to them? You probably weren't aware of any of these things, because you were completely taken away from the present moment by your thoughts. Your body was left to run on autopilot and do what it's been trained to do in that situation, which is what results in your physical symptoms.

Learning to stop and observe what's happening in your own mind and body allows you to regain some control of your self. You are not your thoughts! Stress only exists if you believe something is stressful. Maybe what your thoughts are telling you about certain situations isn't true or even reasonable. Maybe if you stop and notice, you won't agree that the situation is stressful at all; you might simply choose to let the thoughts go. Then you might notice that your pulse and stomach are settled, your blood is flowing smoothly, and actually, you're pretty relaxed
shannclapp Posted - 05/10/2011 : 16:59:42
I know the negativity is a killer. I have no idea why no at this point in my life it is an issue. Maybe it is built up. maybe cause I have kids of my own or maybe i do not have the enery to handle her complaints not sure.
I read your post last night and thought oh this is really why my pain is so much worse today..... so for that thanks :)
It is like nothing is ever a good positive thing all how annoying everything is. No wonder I am so hard on myself and others. I was raised that way.
caligirl Posted - 05/10/2011 : 16:34:09
Wheeew Shannclapp...Glad I'm not the only one!! Did you read my recent post about my mom? Sounds pretty familiar. I am glad you are at least able to notice it right away. Mine seems to be more gradual. I don't usually notice it until the next day. My mom is extremely negative too and it drives me nuts. I keep trying to accept the fact that this is how she is and to move on, but it is so dang hard!!
shannclapp Posted - 05/10/2011 : 14:52:59
Darn parents LOl Just kidding I do love and respect my parents. Imagine what I am going to do to my own kids.................
I better get my mental health in check before I leave it to them :)
art Posted - 05/10/2011 : 14:16:58
I've often thought that the laughter of identification, especially concerning something painful, is the sweetest laughter there is...
susan828 Posted - 05/10/2011 : 13:35:55
Sometimes I laugh when I read the posts here, not because they're funny but because the same exact thing happens to me. I also get a headache at my mother's house, acid reflux where I feel there's a pitchfork in my stomach, and various other things. One time I was there and there was someone who I can't stand. The minute I was left alone in the room with him, as others were in the kitchen, I got a stabbing lower jaw pain which I get when I'm stressed.

A few weeks ago, I was sitting with my Mom at the kitchen table, perfectly fine and she mentioned something that causes trouble in our family and I got chest pains where I thought I was having a heart attack. Immediately after she brought this subject up. I went to lay down on the living room and it passed but yup...stress causes an immediate reaction. This is one thread where I see my self exactly and I guess I am laughing partially out of relief, that I'm not the only one!
shannclapp Posted - 05/10/2011 : 08:45:24
No I have exp'd the about to go away yet, I wish I would LOL. Yes this is great therapy. i hate when in your mind you are trying and doing well, then some dumb comment sets you off. AGHHHH
Hope you have a good day as well.
EmiliaC Posted - 05/10/2011 : 08:31:26
Good for you Shannclapp. Have you experienced any moment when the symptoms seemed ready to go away? That's when you know you're getting through to your brain.

I've been getting there too. This bout of TMS has been much more stubborn than the other I experienced (though the other was much more debilitating)

It's hard to block people out. Yesterday, I was feeling terrific. I felt normal, pain free and had a lot of stamina. But because my heel and knee have been bothering me for quite some time, I guess I must have adjusted my gait without knowing it. Everyone keeps asking me "ooo did you hurt yourself?" or "what's wrong". It drives me nuts because it makes me feel very self conscious which kicks the TMS back in. So yesterday, I was feeling terrific and very good about myself. I was heading out of the door of my job and some lady who was going out to held the door for me even though I was quite a distance away from the door. I started to rush a bit so she wouldn't be standing there a long time and was already feeling self conscious because I felt awkward. Then when I got to the door, she said "got a bad leg, huh?". And of course all the pain came back.

I shouldn't let other people get to me, but it's what keeps holding me back this time. I don't like this feeling that people are noticing me or feeling pity for me. It kind of infuriates me. I'm fine. If I see someone limping a bit, I think "oh they hurt their foot" or "I wonder if that's TMS", but I don't bug them about it. I don't know what it is about me that makes everyone feel they have to comment.

Ok thanks for the therapy. I'll send you your check.

Hope you're feeling great today.
shannclapp Posted - 05/10/2011 : 08:05:22
Aww the eye twitch every time we would go out house hunting my eye would twitch, for hours HAHA
art Posted - 05/10/2011 : 07:55:58
Yes, that's the right stuff. Increased pain at the prospect of some stress inducing social engagement is classic TMS.

I can't walk into my mothers apartment without instant acid reflux. My chest hurts, my eye twitches (not visibly but I can feel it), and my head aches.

Again, this is a process. What seems obvious to some of us old timers is often not so clear to newcomers. Keep posting, keep reading, keep thinking psychologically as in the incident you posted about here.

ALso, consider therapy with someone sympathetic to the mind/body connection.

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