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| Piano5 |
Posted - 04/28/2011 : 12:14:33
I'd like to start a discussion on one of the tenets of TMS: repressed anger/stress/rage. I find it interesting that Dr. Sarno does not directly target repressed MEMORIES, but rather 'rage' in his theory of how TMS manifests pain in the body. I came across an interesting website by a fellow named Robert Carroll, who is a philosopher and skeptic of New Age junk, intelligent design, 9/11 and holocaust deniers, and so forth. He debunks a ton of silliness and I respect his critical thinking. Article here: (http://www.skepdic.com/unconscious.html)
He criticizes Freud's notion of the unconscious being a reservoir for painful/dangerous memories, and cites brain/mind research to suggest that traumatic events are most certainly encoded into our memories and are CONSCIOUSLY repressed, not unconsciously. He also attacks the notion that bringing unconscious memories into the conscious realm will heal the patient of the effects of the painful memories.
He doesn't seem to be attacking modern psychotherapy or the idea that our consciousness is the 'tip of the iceberg', but Freud's theories. He doesn't discount or acknowledge talk therapy, but we all know it is paramount to the expression of rage/stress inside of us.
So, I guess I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on the matter. I don't think it's necessarily memories that are boiling in our unconscious, but stress and emotions that are unacceptable to express in our society that values a firm resolve to solve one's own problems without messy emotions.
**Disclaimers, as smart as Mr. Carroll is, I read a brief sentence (I'll try to find it) on his site noting that the human spine was not built for x,y,z. For a pusher of evolution, he couldn't be more misinformed about the miracle of functionality of the human spine.
I don't know about anyone else, but when my TMS pain flared up it was in response to a stressful past event, not a repressed memory. Perhaps the stress of that memory was repressed, but not the event itself. For example, my mother threatened to kick me out of the house when I was a teenager unless I returned an expensive guitar, which at the time was the most amount of money I had ever spent. Several years later, I got TMS, and had to stop playing guitar. In order to compensate for what I thought was tendonitis at the time, I bought a very expensive used digital piano to learn a new instrument. I was at the fellow's house who I was buying from, trying it out for 30-40 minutes, and developed a severe pain in my right forearm. What a coincidence.
Interested to hear others' thoughts. |
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| golden_girl |
Posted - 05/01/2011 : 21:07:18
"it's simple as a pimple"
made me giggle, thanks Art! 
"F.E.A.R.
Forgive Everyone And Remember
For Everything A Reason"
Ian Brown |
| art |
Posted - 04/29/2011 : 16:38:18
I've long been of the belief that the so-called subconscious mind in the sense that Freud and now Sarno talk about is overdone. See the current thread put up by Forest.
We've had some long discussions about this on the forum. Alexis is an adherent of the rage/distraction view of TMS (if I understand her properly. I don't want to put words in her mouth). I think it's unnecessary and even harmful in some cases to burden the suffering TMS'er with what I consider extra baggage.
In my view it's simple as a pimple: Find a way to relieve stress and TMS symptoms will follow. |
| shannclapp |
Posted - 04/28/2011 : 13:44:50
Good topid. I have so much concious rage that I am aware of I am really wondering what could even be left to be repressed. |
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