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| holly |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 14:37:14
Hi guys,
I have this idea in my head that reading these posts (only speaking for myself)I am adding fuel to the TMS fire.  I think when I start reading my brain is getting new ideas. ( The writing part helps though) I think TMS can be contagious just like many other illnesses. I am sure this must of crossed a few of your minds at some point. I find it interesting that when I mentioned this a few posts ago nobody commented on it. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to think about that. I know I don't. This is not thoughts I am happy about because I really like this board. (perhaps too much).You guys got me thru a few hellish times. I almost feel a bit of "rage" that I think it have to go off it. I am going to buy a journal and give that a try and stick with therapy for now. I will let you know if it makes a difference. |
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| holly |
Posted - 02/13/2005 : 10:38:11
Hi guys,
Glad to hear you are all doing pretty well. I would like to post here from time to time. Today is an especially happy day for me. That business I told you I have been trying to get out of ...well today my partner and I are formally signing the contract for him to buy me out! I am estatic to say the least!! This has been a HUGE thorn in my side since the summer. Finally today it will be formally over. I couldn't be happier. Hopefully things will change around here because of this.
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| menvert |
Posted - 02/13/2005 : 04:21:49
hi all,
I haven't dropped in for a long time...
things have been going well for me. So I don't tend to come to the Forum much, unless I'm feeling particularly down or affected by TMS.... so my absence from the board is a good sign of my improvement.
I do also agree that attending the Forum too much can actually make me dwell on my physical symptoms way more than I would otherwise.
I also don't Journal very much myself... I deal with my TMS in a much more practical way, because that's the way I work. I am getting very good actually noticing at the time, my TMS processes, and although journaling may have given me faster improvement . it also tends to make me dwell on my pain.
Several weeks ago, I did a full day of physical labour . I have not done anything like that for years, 10 full hours of work... lifting washing machines, collecting rubbish carrying furniture all sorts of things. I basically didn't have any symptoms, and the ones I did . I didn't take notice of because I have learnt the technique of understanding it as TMS.
A year ago, I would have not even contemplated trying . but thanks to Sarno I now know not to give my fears power and that my body is not broken whatsoever.
Pain still comes and goes in different regions, but more and more the pain comes with no physical correlation whatsoever. my brain is just losing it :) out of desperation.
So now I just continue pushing new fears to retrain my brain that I am completely capable of performing that activity and down the track I will complete my recovery in fullness as I challenge each and every part of my TMS.
My latest challenge, going back to work :) naturally it's thrown up some new symptoms, but hey I expect that completely. It's just a matter of not letting my obsessive mind get a hold of anything.... and making it more than it is.
Anyway, it's nice to be back to the time being :)
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| mala |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 22:13:01
Holly
Good to see you posting again and glad to hear your asthma is better. There are a few things about your post that I want to comment on.
You say you gave up after 3 weeks becoz you couldn't write what you really wanted to. That perhaps is a stumbling block to your recovery and I think a very good reason for you to keep at it for a while longer. 3 weeks isn't that long . For some people journalling comes naturally whereas for others it takes time to get the hang of it. .
It also sounds like you may be using an excuse your family discovering your journal as an excuse for getting out of this whole journalling business. as Stryder said there are ways you can keep your journal hidden from others especially an e journal.
You are more than welcome to talk about things that are bothering you here on this forum. There are many people who will give you the best possible advice from their points of view but I think tms is more about doing the work yourself and a personal journey of emotional discovery and insights into yourself.
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| Stryder |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 20:07:23
Hi Holly,
Happy to hear you are doing better :-) I myself have had to take a "forum vacation" from time to time for some of the same reasons you mentioned.
If you are concerned about keeping your journal private, you can journal on your computer into a file, and put a password/encryption on the file so only you can see it. That way, there is no paper journal to be "discovered". Post a reply to me if you think that would help you and I'll give you some suggestions.
Take care, -Stryder |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 07:17:49
Hi Holly,
Glad to hear your symptoms are a little better. I don't journal either. My posts are my journaling. I find that relationships are at the top of my list for fueling TMS. It doesn't sound like your homefront is very conducive to doing TMS work. It may help to vent here. You may get some good advice from some of the married people.
Good Luck,
tt |
| Albert |
Posted - 02/11/2005 : 17:27:19
Hello Holly:
It's a good thing you haven't been reading this forum's posts because that burning in your ears wasn't TMS, it was us talking about you. Just kidding.
I don't journal too much. I prefer to sit with my eyes close and dwell on things. I guess I developed this preference when I used to meditate. When I do journal, I tend to do it electronically, sometimes print it out and read it, and then usually rip it up and throw it away. I guess you don't keep a record this way, but it's better than nothing. |
| holly |
Posted - 02/11/2005 : 16:03:30
Hi guys just wanted to say hello & give you an update. It must be a good 3 weeks since I posted last. The journaling idea just didn't work for me. I tried but couldn't really write what I truly wanted to say. I kept getting a nagging feeling that somehow, someway someone in my family (either my husband or snoopy 13 year old daughter) would find the journal. I was writing one night alone in my bedroom and my husband walked in looking and wondering what I was doing. Then my 13 year old daughter came in and asked "what are you doing??" The next day my 7 year old daughter was crying that my 13 year old just read her diary and that was it!! I gave up on journaling due to fear of someone getting a hold of it. I tore up the few pages I started. 
As far as my condition, my asthma is improving as far as my tolerance to breathing cold air without covering up my mouth all the time 
That's a big acheivement for me! My toe problem is still there but I think a bit better. I still can't read the others posts anymore. I am sure I am felling better physically due to NOT reading them especially since things at home are not that wonderful. It is really nice to post since the journaling is out for me. I am anxious to hear from my old friends.
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 08:54:51
Quote from Kajsa,
"In Selfridges book she stresses the fact that you NEVER EVER shall
journal about the symptoms - only about emotions."
Kajsa, thanks for that info. I've never read her book, I've got too many books and I'm too slow of a reader. That thought or her's, to me is at the core of TMS theory. IF, it's TMS, then the individual symptom is not what is important. The TMS symptom is the personification of the gremlin. The quicker one can desist from discussing their anatomical pain spot and begin dealing with emotional life issues, the quicker the volume control for the physical pain can be turned down.
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| holly |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 06:28:57
It is morning and I read all your final posts. I want to say one thing. You are all the best , kindest bunch of people I ever encountered. Not being computer savey at all somehow I had found a way to this forum. Just knowing you guys are here gives me a great sense of peace within myself (at least for the moment). We are all so much alike both men and women included. If any of you nice girls live on long Island (N.Y.) and would like to meet for lunch let me know.  |
| Kajsa |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 02:51:39
I think it is a wise decision.! The board can be an obsession.
Perhaps it is also a little bell (for us all) to not write TO MUCH
about our symptoms.
In Selfridges book she stresses the fact that you NEVER EVER shall
journal about the symptoms - only about emotions.
I think that this board is “ a kind of journaling”.
Of course we can not forbid anything and it´s important to share
some experiences about the symptoms -but not get stuck in them.
Not get stuck in the description of them….
Instead concentrate more on strategies how to get rid of them and
exploring emotions.
All the best,
Kajsa
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| n/a |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 02:43:38
Hope this is not too late to catch you before you go on your board vacation, Holly. You are right to go with what your intuition tells you. Let us know how things are going with you from time to time.
Ver best wishes
Anne |
| mala |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 01:55:35
Hey Holly,
Don't be a complete stranger.If you think it's OK, I'd really like to know how you are doing once once in a while with this interesting approach. Like the others said you don't have to read, just post any new revelations or insights that you may have. Of course I will fully understand if you don't want to.
Just take it as it comes and all the best.
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| Louise |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 20:27:53
Good luck, Holly!
I sincerely hope that your "vacation from the board" results in improvement & recovery. Like many of my fellow posters, I agree that some of us (myself included!  ) do tend to be a bit obsessive. I'm on sort-of a "forum diet" myself. I check in & read new posts only once a day.
Take care & know that we're out here and sending you positive thoughts. You CAN do it.
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| holly |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 20:21:51
Seth on that hysterically funny note I will now go bed. Instead of worrying about this and that I am lol! Good night all. |
| lobstershack |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 19:00:01
Bye Holly! Take care and good luck; and remember, don't be shy to come back if you need the support, we're here for you! I think you're doing the right thing, I was actually thinking of taking a "TMS fast" for a few days--still doing the work of course--but I don't think I'm quite there yet, I don't want to rush things. Although I must admit, my obsessiveness kicked in when I read your post: "Oh no, do I have to leave too in order to get better!" It's actually quite commical when you think about it, that we can all turn each other sometimes into a bunch of screaming ninnies!
Seth |
| holly |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:45:47
Laura I will check back. I just won't read as you suggested. I really love everyone here so much so I will post and stay away from reading for awhile. Who knows.... maybe I will see some improvement.  Carol I am almost positive I now have this sciatica (after10 yrs.) from all the reading by the way! |
| Carol |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:42:13
Holly
I couldn't agree with you more. I have experienced the triggering with my vertigo/dizziness, which had been totally gone for years until I started posting on the dizziness thread. Fortunatley I know what is happening, so it never lasts for more than a few seconds.
About a year ago I also took a sebatical from the board. Unfortunately, I also took a sebatical from my TMS work. I returned worse than before! Don't forget to read Sarno and journal. Since I returned I have gotten much better, except for a pretty bad flareup over the holidays. If I decide to leave the board again I will know to keep doing the work!
Best of luck to you!
Carol |
| Laura |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:37:58
Holly,
Good luck with your journaling and I hope it brings you to a healthy place. Maybe from time to time you could just give us an updat, but not actually read about all the ailments we're all suffering from.
You know, now that you mention it, something just dawned on me after reading your post. When I originally suffered from the dizziness problem, it went away quickly (within three weeks) and it was forgotten. Then, right before the dreadful trip to Cancun (where it decided to restart) we went to visit my in-laws for the day. My mother-in-law was telling us how she was so dizzy and how she'd had it for weeks and it was driving her crazy. We left a couple days after and it started with me again. Interesting.
Well, best of luck to you, Holly. Be well.
Laura
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| Baseball65 |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:20:49
Hi Holly.
Couldn't agree with you more...I think it's a great idea.I've often wodered if I would have recovered so fast if I had had this forum....a lot of what Mrosenthal/TMSpain/Diskpain/SS posts would have got my obsessiveness all fired up......I would've out stripped his inquisitiveness and obsessiveness.I've actually even had a twinge here and there...nothing worthy of mention,but I know what you're talking about.
I do thank you for your input and help in things we've discussed....I feel like the posters on this board are my 2nd Family,and your my sister.....so I'll just pretend your going off to college....
Please come back and check in .....
we'll miss ya'
Baseball65 |
| Hilary |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:54:44
quote:
Originally posted by Tunza
I think some (most?) people with TMS are highly suggestible and our unconsious can pick up ideas from others' experiences about which pain/allergy/sensation to use next distract us.
I could not agree with this more, Kat.
good luck Holly, and stay in touch as and when you feel like it.
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