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| molomaf |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 06:48:03
Hi all,
I just want to repeat what Dr. Sarno most pain is mindbody, sometimes the pain is not TMS. I thought I had sciatica but I had a very rare condition called cauda equina syndrome. I had to have emergency surgery on January 5 and just got out of the rehab hospital on Thurs. My symptoms were severe pain down the legs, pins and needles in the lower legs and I could not walk. I waited believing that this was TMS but when the pain did not let up, I saw a doctor on the tarpit yoga list (TMS doctor). He worked with Dr. Sarno and told me that he understood why I had waited. But again, this is a very rare condition and the surgeon sees only one every two years.
Just so that you understand, I still believe 100% in TMS. Just that not everything is. I am in a wheelchair until my leg nerves "wake up" and need physical therapy until that happens.
Michele |
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| Baseball65 |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 08:16:42
Hi Molomaf.
I WAS getting worried about you..I hadn't seen a post in such a long time.I hope this goes away as quick as it came now that you have addressed it correctly.
I had walls collapse on me at work...a very real and prosaic 800+ pounds that tore the ligaments out of my ring middle and index finger on the left hand...definitely NOT TMS....
However,6 weeks later,I was still in excruciating pain,though I'd taken time off of work,worn the little hand stbilizer thing,etc.
What started out as a definitely physical deal had transformed in my head to a new TMS spot.
Even though your(can't spell it) is dealt with,still keep your TMS thinking cap on during your recovery ,so some new variation doesn't sneak up on ya'.
I am very glad to hear you found a solution,keep posting...we miss you!!
Marc
peace
Baseball65 |
| molomaf |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 06:12:15
I was very fortunate that I did not have the bladder and bowel incontinence that is associated with cauda equina syndrome. VERY FORTUNATE! But I do have all the other symptoms that you mentioned Stryder.
Thanks for all your good wishes everyone.
Michele |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 02:49:57
Hope you are recovering well, Michele. Thanks for posting your experience. You make an important point.
Sarah, you describe very well the difference between the unbearable pain of something that requires fast intervention and the nagging, but just bearable TMS pain - that's it, exactly - you describe it perfectly!
I had an accident a few years ago which resulted in a badly broken shoulder - the pain was unbearable. I had an operation that night which included the insertion of metal pins. After all the swelling etc went away - I had no more pain and haven't had to this day - completely different to TMS. It was something that happened - then went away.
Take care, Michele.
Best wishes
Anne
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| Sarah Jacoba |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 00:28:43
I remember when I had a root canal, the holistic dentist who had read about TMS gave me a hard time that perhaps it was just more TMS since I'd had *some* pain off and on in my gums for the prior year. But I think the difference is that REAL pain/problems are often intense to a totally different degree. While TMS seems unbearable, it still actually is (just) bearable whereas the pain from the infected tooth was totally unbearable. I think TMS pain is not so much acute and unbearable as constantly annoying and distracting (at least that's my experience) -- constantly on the mind. with this thing, I knew I needed a root canal. With TMS I'm always arguing is it real or not.
--Sarah
"When dream and day unite" |
| Stryder |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 21:20:48
Hi Michele,
Good point, well said. I'm very glad to hear that your emergency is over and you are on the road to recovery.
When a qualified doc does examine you for "red flag" symptoms of cauda equina syndrome, they are looking to identify this serious physical compression of very lower part of the spinal cord. Inability to walk, loss of strength/muscle control, bowel/bladder dysfunction, severe loss of feeling.
When I burst my L5-S1 disc, I did have acute numbness in my calf and foot initially that did go away after 6 months or so. Prior and post I had experienced severe low back pain. Its hard to separate all these things out, I mistakenly thought ALL my symptoms were related to the bad disc as well. I was lucky at the time since I did not have surgery (no red flag symptoms), and many years later learned that TMS was the cause of my chronic pain.
Hopefully you will not have to wait too long for your leg nerves to wake up. Be patient, keep the faith.
Take care, -Stryder |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 01/24/2005 : 10:54:29
Hi Michele,
Thanks for that very important post. Best wishes for getting back on your feet very soon. I agree wholeheartedly with you and Dr. Sarno - not everything is TMS - just a lot of it. In my estimation 80% or more. Sarno always recommneds being examined to eliminate serious structural conditions like tumors.
The problem today is, that the assmebly line, med/industrial complex, ignores entirely the mind/emotional aspect of the illness equation and only addresses the body "engineering" aspects. This can work o.k. for your car maybe, (although how many times do "mechanics" mis-diagnose and start replacing healthy parts until they stumble on the true source of the problem?).
With this medical system there is no need for long drawn out discussions with the patient about their life and relationships. Keeps things moving in the waiting room and a more predictable money stream. If only doctors still did housecalls.
I am going to hopefully see Doctor Schechter in LA and Dr. Dubin to clarify my issues since I've had a number of conflicting DX's.
Good luck on your recovery and keep us informed about your thoughts Michele.
tt
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