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| clemm1984 |
Posted - 11/29/2010 : 21:33:59
After severally crippling back pain, which went from uncomfortable to really bad about 7 months ago and had me on my back for weeks at a time after an MRI and all the regular junk one goes through, (when dealing with back pain). I heard of Dr.Sarno and began reading his stuff in late august, noticing that it brought some minor relief to the pain. On september 21st I had my appointment with him, he gave me the TMS diagnosis and a month later I took him up on the follow up call as although I kicked the painkillers (dilaudid) I was still limping and in pain. Since I have reluctantly returned to wokr and am still in pain. It has never for even 5 seconds left my left leg for 7 months. I am at the end of my rope. Sarno suggested I see a psychotherapist and I have began but know that it is a long road ahead. Just looking for some inspiration or any ideas to kick this final bout of pain (and bad limp I have going on). I have read healing backpain, and the mind body disorder several times and have more or less hit a wall with the journaling, I never really found it to help. Thanks!
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 12/05/2010 : 10:50:38
This is from the TMS Wikipedia:
Psychotherapy
Sarno says that about 20% of his patients need psychotherapy. He states that he uses "short-term, dynamic, analytically oriented psychotherapy."[10] Schechter says that he uses psychotherapy for about 30% of his patients, and that six to ten sessions are needed per patient.[1]
DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6415
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| marjrc |
Posted - 12/05/2010 : 10:02:05
Clemm, I feel the same way about one of my debilitating symptoms, a weak foot that doesn't lift up on the toes and causes terrible pain when I stand and walk. I also have a bad limp. There hasn't been one iota of improvement in this symptom since June 1st in spite of TMS work that I've done since Aug. - very similar timing and story to yours.
I don't journal every day so I think that is partly to blame. Thank you, Kenny, for your encouragement! :) I do, though, see a psychologist (started for different reasons, but now talk about my pain and unconscious rage and emotions at almost every session). It is expensive, but our insurance covers part of the cost. I think that therapy can be very helpful when symptoms that we know are TMS are stubborn and unrelenting. Try the journaling every day, the meditation and reading of TMS, discussions as well as some therapy from time to time. Maybe it will be enough to be of a huge help to you.
Btw... I noticed you said "reluctantly" returned to work. Really thinking about and journaling as to why you feel reluctant can be a key in your recovery. |
| kenny V |
Posted - 12/02/2010 : 22:32:34
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I have read healing backpain, and the mind body disorder several times and have more or less hit a wall with the journaling, I never really found it to help. Thanks!
It takes Time for the whole process of healing
And that is very common, was for me as well. It was easy for me to understand my condition as it related to the structural physical, programming, and personality etc… But the journal is what brought out what I needed to do for the emotional healing.
Clemm It Isn't ez but perhaps that is where you may need to do the most work.
Healing takes time, spend some time reading other peoples jounaling process do a search on the word Journal or
Journaling and read what folks wrote in their struggles. How they journaled and how it helped them. It may help shed some new light and open something up for you to discover about yourself.
For me it was at that point when I started to journal my life history. I used Journaling as a vehicle to discover and uncover many things that were unresolved in my past life
Exert: But it was not until I got “real” in my Journaling process , got in touch with my inner pain and emotions, that ultimately released me from my bondage
Below is what someone else wrote
Hth
Kenny v
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If I could give some advice to people just starting out on TMS therapy, it would be-DON'T GIVE UP! For some it takes awhile, I'm a good example. I never lost my faith though, because when I read MBP I saw myself in so many of the pages. It is hard work, but you can do it.
My last advice would be to journal. I found out so much about myself with journaling, that if all my pain and discomfort came back, I would still consider my TMS time a success. Write about what pops into your head, what bothers you and WHY. Re-read what you wrote from a TMS standpoint and pick out the pressures, the goodism and perfectionism, and the low self-esteem issues. Acknowledge stress, say to yourself "This (blank) stresses me, but I will not allow it to cause me pain". Do journaling often, it will help.
Always Hope For Recovery
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 11/30/2010 : 09:49:22
Five to six months is not that long a time in the grand scheme of things. If you go once a week, that's only 20-24 sessions. I know people who have been seeing a shrink once a week forever, It's kind of a paid pal in that case.
How much is your health worth? Beg, borrow or steal, ask about a sliding scale, rob a bank (kidding). If you have insurance, psychotherapy may be covered if it's prescribed.
How much do the two therapists charge if I may ask? Try a consultation with each therapist, maybe the more expensive one is cheaper in the long run if they "cure" you quicker.
DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6415
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| clemm1984 |
Posted - 11/30/2010 : 02:48:11
Oh, well the man Sarno suggested said no less than 5 or 6 months to recover and he was too expensive for me so I am going to one that I found that accepts the TMS diagnosis. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 11/29/2010 : 22:22:33
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Originally posted by clemm1984
Sarno suggested I see a psychotherapist and I have began but know that it is a long road ahead.
Sorry to hear about your pain Clemm. Just wondering why you think psychotherapy for TMS is a long process? I had a few sessions with a TMS therapist on the West Coast, Dr. Donald Dubin, who is unfortunately now deceased. He said on a TMS tape, that he's never had to do more than a dozen sessions to get the TMS message across.
DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6415
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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