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skizzik Posted - 11/12/2010 : 15:32:20
So I'm turning in a lease I had gotten here 2 years ago at this dealer and as I'm sitting here I was reminded of all the pain and fear I had when I was leasing it in the first place. How my mind was racing with my battle with tms and how it was hard to sit and talk to the sales rep hiding my condition. I just kept thinking I gotta get this car, I gotta keep forging ahead in life for the sake of my family. Someday I might not have all this pain, fear, anxiety, depression etc....but I cant wait for that to go away so that I can then move on.

And here I am 2 years later. I have my moments (nothing, and I mean nothing like before), but I feel fine, healthy, pretty good......normal ;)

Figured I'd share.
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skizzik Posted - 11/15/2010 : 16:25:46
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Originally posted by HellNY


Skizzik -

I am very happy to see your come to terms with the prinicples that have been at work governing your pain/emotions (two sides of teh same coin). The good thing is that you can never really "go back," you can never unlearn what you now know. TMS will never again gain the kidn of foothold that it once had. It may try now and again, but like a spoiled child who cant win with its parents, in the end all it can do is grumble and go back up to its room and stew until it decides to come down and play well with others.



thanx hell,

I always think how it opened my eyes when you said you were fine with being as pain free as you were, when at the time it was'nt 100% pain free. That was so foriegn to me. But here I was crippled in pain, and there you were back to life. I really had to ask myself the Dr. Phil question which is "how's it workin for ya." And then come to terms like ya said

skizzik Posted - 11/15/2010 : 16:22:01
quote:
Originally posted by Darko

Skiz,
no no mate I totally get what you're saying....nothing crazy about it at all. I actually didn't expect you to bring up being grateful and attachment and it's really given me a different way to look at this.


cool, I tend to drone on and sound crazy to myself, so I'm glad you seem to think it will work for you. It appears to work well for me.
HellNY Posted - 11/14/2010 : 11:07:12

Skizzik -

I am very happy to see your come to terms with the prinicples that have been at work governing your pain/emotions (two sides of teh same coin). The good thing is that you can never really "go back," you can never unlearn what you now know. TMS will never again gain the kidn of foothold that it once had. It may try now and again, but like a spoiled child who cant win with its parents, in the end all it can do is grumble and go back up to its room and stew until it decides to come down and play well with others.

Darko Posted - 11/13/2010 : 14:51:12
Skiz,
no no mate I totally get what you're saying....nothing crazy about it at all. I actually didn't expect you to bring up being grateful and attachment and it's really given me a different way to look at this. Even though I make an effort with them both I never really included them in my TMS toolbox. It's interesting because if I was to be really honest I'd have to say I'm really attached to having wealth. I have many things on my plate and most of it is because I'm chasing the cash.........and cash is one of my biggest TMS triggers I would say.

however I know that if I just relax, am grateful and do the required action I will attract the money......it's just my mind seems to be driven by some emotional drivers. Fear and lack are just two I can think of on the fly. Thanks for sharing mate, it's given me a different direction to go in and one I really must address.


Cheers!

D
tennis tom Posted - 11/13/2010 : 10:22:20
quote:



... it's nice to know that "I'm just a human"...





As the Good Doctor says, TMS is part of the human condition.








DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6415

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
skizzik Posted - 11/13/2010 : 09:17:24
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom

Hi Skizzik,

Thanks for checking in, happy to hear you've mastered the TMS gremlin and that you control it and not the other way around. That was an interesting reflection on your emotions while sitting at the car lease two years apart. Enjoyed your sense of humor here.

Best of luck,
tt



thanx tt, but if anyone has mastered it, they would be a multibillionare

When it gets bad, and you hate yourself because you know the literature, you know the reasons, you've done the work and you don't understand why it still hurts, it's nice to know that "I'm just a human"...



skizzik Posted - 11/13/2010 : 09:10:16
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Originally posted by Darko

Hey Skiz,
good to hear! It's a pretty crappy place to be when you're in the hole. What helped you get out of it? What are some of the tools you use? I have found "having more faith" that things will work out fine and changing my belief has had a large impact on my anxiety but it's a constant thing....need to remain aware of it all the time.

D



thanx D,

I think a quote from Rhona Byrne (the secret, the power) kinda sums up and validates what I got out of Hillbilly and Hellny.
I can't find the passage right now, but it had to do with "being grateful" vs. "being attatched".

And if your'e truly grateful for things, then your'e not attatched. If your'e attatched to things, as in you'd could'nt live without them, you need them, you get anxious thinking about life without them/it whatever, then you suffer.

For me this meant I should be grateful for the back I do have. Today I was grateful to wake up pain free, or mostly. And in the past, I would wake up checking, that damn checking to see if all that hard theraputic work kicked in yet. Cause I need my back, I need to perform and be a good dad, worker husband....in other words I was suffering.

I can't remember her name, but when I first got on here, she offered me a phone convo, and as I reeled off my problems and pain, she said I just need to relax and look at all the good things I have and I thought she was nuts. I was a Sarno disciple and I must keep listing bad stressful things. But reading "the power" helps me think in the grateful manner, and it is calming. And, good things keep happening to me, and it's all interconnected........um....I'm gettin a bit crazy now
tennis tom Posted - 11/13/2010 : 08:54:56
Hi Skizzik,

Thanks for checking in, happy to hear you've mastered the TMS gremlin and that you control it and not the other way around. That was an interesting reflection on your emotions while sitting at the car lease two years apart. Enjoyed your sense of humor here.

Best of luck,
tt




DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6415

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
skizzik Posted - 11/13/2010 : 08:28:34
quote:
Originally posted by Hillbilly

Hi, Skiz!

You are an awesome cat who somehow listened to my ramblings and made sense of it. I am very gratified to see that you are doing well. That sincerely makes me happy. Cheers to you. One more piece of advice.....keep going!




Funny how when I'm around town and observe a dude for whatever reason I always think "check out this cat." I'll take awesome cat, haha.
If making sense of it means I looked forward to, read it, and felt better about my situation, then yes, thats what happened to me during the taking in of said ramblings. However, your passionate arguments may have given me more confidence than anything too.
I'm happy to see you happy thanks for hangin in there with me during darker times
Darko Posted - 11/12/2010 : 22:01:11
Hey Skiz,
good to hear! It's a pretty crappy place to be when you're in the hole. What helped you get out of it? What are some of the tools you use? I have found "having more faith" that things will work out fine and changing my belief has had a large impact on my anxiety but it's a constant thing....need to remain aware of it all the time.

D
Hillbilly Posted - 11/12/2010 : 17:15:26
Hi, Skiz!

You are an awesome cat who somehow listened to my ramblings and made sense of it. I am very gratified to see that you are doing well. That sincerely makes me happy. Cheers to you. One more piece of advice.....keep going!

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Ralph Waldo Emerson

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