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| mom2aidan2002 |
Posted - 01/25/2010 : 16:49:07
Looking for reassurance here. It seems everytime I start to struggle with a symptom, I get validated here by others who have experienced it too and then can let go of the symptom. So here I am!
Over the last week I have developed tingling, burning, and paresthesias in my chin (i.e.,feels like feathers or movement under the skin). I have a long history of these in my feet and legs, head, cheek, etc., along with sciatica, anxiety, toe twitching, TMJ, you name it.
In the last week I started to get back pain, but immediately pulled out my Sarno tricks and it went away. Then I had a twinge of jaw pain, but I thought of Sarno and it went away too. Then I started feeling this weird sensation in my chin. Funny thing was that I didn't really notice it much, so didn't really think about TMS as a possibility. And now it has gotten progressively worse. (A lot of times a new symptom gets entrenched before I think of Sarno and then by the time I think--whoops--maybe it's TMS--I am already in the anxiety cycle. Hence why I need reassurance!)
Here is my mistake. Before I made the possible TMS connection, I searched the internet for "chin numbness" and immediately discovered MANY links as to how this is often the 1st sign of metasticized cancer. So, I am dead and buried in my mind, because of course these links also describe a very low survival rate.
Now in fairness, after much searching, I also found some sites describing people's anxiety about chin numbness (after they found the same info about this symptom linked to cancer), but of course, my mind goes to "well, they haven't posted a year later to say they are still alive, either". LOL
Do I need to go to my doctor? Have other TMS sufferers out there had numbness in their chin and lived to tell the tale?
I hate to have to go to the doctor AGAIN just for reassurance. I feel like it is likely TMS, but there is that lingering doubt, which makes it harder for me to give the symptom up.
Christine
p.s. last year I posted about my new symptoms of toe twitching and how I was convinced I had ALS. After reading the responses to my post I worked with it as a TMS symptom and it went away pretty quickly, without any development of weakness (the hallmark of TMS), of course. Now it operates as my other "conquered" symptoms. It flares up, I say--nope, TMS, and it gives up! So thanks in advance.
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| skizzik |
Posted - 01/26/2010 : 07:58:54
mom, just to let you know that I too had the exact symptoms you described. I remember (years ago) when I was new to tms, telling my old school primary doc (I was in there for migraines) that I was getting pin prick sensations in my cheeks and chin. Like the pin was going from the inside to out.
He just kept staring at me funny like I was nuts. And I think that was more helpful then if he had gotten a concerned look. I kinda miss him..lol
I remember he kinda shouted at me one time "skiz, lets treat one symptom at a time"! (well my real name haha).  |
| skizzik |
Posted - 01/26/2010 : 07:54:35
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Originally posted by HellNY
Oh yes I read all that nonsense about "central pain sensitization" a term that accurately describes TMS and similar phenomen at the symptomatological level but becomes laregely speculative and unscientific when it attempts to claim a defined, deterministic neual basis for it. Central changes to nociceptive neurons, long term potentiaqtion in pain relay neurons, etc. It may be all true, but it just describes a process and not whats driving it.
When we learn something new, we also get "long term potentiation" is associative neurons etc etc. It says ntohing about cause nor how it is changed by the environment really.
Hellny is smart. we're lucky to have you here hell! |
| HellNY |
Posted - 01/26/2010 : 04:39:43
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Originally posted by catspine
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There it is again. I dont even care and its not even there now. Another "attempt" that would have driven me balllistic 2 years ago. Now I dont care and it never grows only fades.
Lookihng forward to teh next TMS "bluff" Yawn. Its always the same.
Yes Hellny you're right but this is living with it, you can do it I can do it, many of us can do it we know what this is all about but my wish here is to find a way get rid of TMS for good.
Would you have an idea to add for how we can do that?
What specific thought could defeats the strategy of the brain permanently when nothing else works? could a computer memorize and sort out the right words that will stop a migraine ? Can science and technology be helpful enough to answer that? can meditation be made more specific for this condition ? Could a NLP technique be developed specifically to turn TMS around ?
What would it take?
So please if any one has some ideas lets open a thread and see what happens. This is America and I'm sure that if we don't try something while we can someone else will someday and we might regret we didn't do it .
Well I guess one could call it "living with it" but I dont think its really the best way to describe it, since many would interpret that to mean having the same level of pain and just tolerating it.
Instead, its realizing that the pain is all a sham. And as a result, it actually fades. The realization that the pain is a sham reduces the negative emotional response (fear, worry), which is the fuel that the pain needs to grow and survive.
Absent those emotions, it never gains a foothold and fades iunto oblivion.
IU do get the "attempts to get started" by my "painbody" but it never finds a fertile soild so it always dies fairly fast.
As for solving the problem to the point where even "attempts" by my TMS gremlin dont happen anymore, I havent gotten there. Whats more, I dont care really that much if I do. It would be nice, sure. But to care that much about it is actually the fuel that TMS needs.
Its the confucious/buddhist/eastern approach (I know I butchered that). In "caring and yearning for change" you dont get it. "Desire" is the enemy. Disconnecting from concern is the solution.
Wierd but true. |
| catspine |
Posted - 01/26/2010 : 02:11:17
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There it is again. I dont even care and its not even there now. Another "attempt" that would have driven me balllistic 2 years ago. Now I dont care and it never grows only fades.
Lookihng forward to teh next TMS "bluff" Yawn. Its always the same.
Yes Hellny you're right but this is living with it, you can do it I can do it, many of us can do it we know what this is all about but my wish here is to find a way get rid of TMS for good.
Would you have an idea to add for how we can do that?
What specific thought could defeats the strategy of the brain permanently when nothing else works? could a computer memorize and sort out the right words that will stop a migraine ? Can science and technology be helpful enough to answer that? can meditation be made more specific for this condition ? Could a NLP technique be developed specifically to turn TMS around ?
What would it take?
So please if any one has some ideas lets open a thread and see what happens. This is America and I'm sure that if we don't try something while we can someone else will someday and we might regret we didn't do it .
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| HellNY |
Posted - 01/25/2010 : 19:12:43
The smart-ass response would be "YES. Its METASTATIC CANCER. YOU'RE GONNA DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH SOON"
And then the silliniess of it all cant be denied.
After a while you really need to stand back and look at your history. At that time you will see how ridiculous this whole affair is. How you drift to the irrational and you produce irrational symptoms in your own body and mind.
Excepting that in the universe of possibilities nothing can ever be proven with certainty, this is just same old same old TMS.
Its like when my TMS finally made the fatal mistake of overplaying its hand. For years all my pain was "spinal." And then, when I started getting burning/tingling sensations on my face, scalp adn toungue, I knew it had nothing to do with my spine.
The cranial nerves in the face have. nothing. to. do. with. the. spine. I even got hypersensitivity to smells for a while. The olfactory nerve goes straight to the brain.
Oh yes I read all that nonsense about "central pain sensitization" a term that accurately describes TMS and similar phenomen at the symptomatological level but becomes laregely speculative and unscientific when it attempts to claim a defined, deterministic neual basis for it. Central changes to nociceptive neurons, long term potentiaqtion in pain relay neurons, etc. It may be all true, but it just describes a process and not whats driving it.
When we learn something new, we also get "long term potentiation" is associative neurons etc etc. It says ntohing about cause nor how it is changed by the environment really.
But I really digressed there.
You have TMS. Accept it. Im the same way. FOr some reason as my job ju7st ramped up the past few weeks ove gotten burning mouth syndrome. Pathetic. There it is again. I dont even care and its not even there now. Another "attempt" that would have driven me balllistic 2 years ago. Now I dont care and it never grows only fades.
Lookihng forward to teh next TMS "bluff" Yawn. Its always the same.
The question is: are you gonna fall for it again?
Stop obsessing. Its really not only killing you, its generating your problem. |
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