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| Fox |
Posted - 06/19/2009 : 15:41:13
Anyone been successful in using TMS principles regarding PF? I've have a bad case of this for 10 days. |
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| Fox |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 06:26:21
Thanks, HilaryN. I guess that answers the question. Dad Burn It if good ol' Art isn't a young whippersnapper! But close enough to me for his experience to apply to me, I reckon. |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 07/03/2009 : 01:13:30
Have you checked his profile, Fox?
Hilary N |
| Fox |
Posted - 07/02/2009 : 18:33:22
Well, still got heel pain though maybe 20% better. I saw an old post on PF by Art which said he always ran through PF when he got it and it went away. Art - if you are out there, do you mind telling me how old you are? I'm 60 though in good health and pretty good shape. Although I've been walking for years, I used to run 6 miles everyday, but I can't seem to beat the conditioning that leads to sciatica when I try to run - anyway I might try running again to get rid of this PF, but I wonder if it makes a difference if I've got PF and I'm 60 years old. Could it be more risky for my foot than it would be for a younger man? |
| Fox |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 12:20:13
Oh - as to the duration of my walking habits - I have been doing this every day for over 10 years. |
| Fox |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 12:18:50
Monte - thanks so much for your input - I was walking briskly 30 to 60 minutes each and every day (the 60 minutes was always on Saturdays and Sundays) before the pain started, but I had no pain or special event occurring during my last brisk walk before the pain started (the next morning). |
| Monte |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 10:50:41
Fox,
This is a tough one. I have seen it both ways successfully --- as a physical injury and as tms.
If it is physical ---it will respond positively to massive amounts of self-massage--calf & ankle, massive tennis ball/golf ball treatments and massive ice. by massive I mean 5x day 5- 10 minutes each.
Obviously there are some very compelling testimonials here on the tms side--so we know it can also be tms. You have to know your tms-self, your symptoms, what you are doing physical & emotionally, is it responding, etc. If this is out of the blue and you are not a really active walker/runner then you have to lean more to tms.
Mh
Monte Hueftle
monte@runningpain.com |
| Fox |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 09:52:34
Forgot to mention the following..I am wrestling with the idea of whether I should see a podiatrist to "rule our something dangerous". I am 99% sure it's plantar fasciitis based on my internet reading. And the diversity of treatment options makes me think that the diagnosis of PF, like most back pain diagnoses, is worthless. But could it be something "dangerous" that should be ruled out by a podiatrist? I'm afraid if I go for an evaluation that I'll get sweet talked into some ridiculous, or in itself risky (such as cortisone injections), treatment. |
| Fox |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 06:49:15
Thanks, CRK, for the link to Dr. Sopher...Yes, there was no trauma...Suspiciously, I just woke up one morning with it....There is truly an epidemic of PF. My mother had it. So did my brother, my best friend, and a guy at work...They got orthotics...I have been "gelling it" - not because I think it's good treatment but because it surprisingly enough does help with the staggering pain and the grimacing/limping. I realize that it's just symptom relief -softer contact and a little less stretch. |
| cfhunter |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 15:03:32
I had it for 2 years and YES it was TMS for me.
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| crk |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 11:35:28
You might find this helpful: http://www.tms-mindbodymedicine.com/tmsinfo.htm#foot
Best wishes! You can beat this! |
| salamander |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 11:20:59
Found this from one of my previous posts....
I had the most amazing experience with heel pain (PF) when traveling in France about 10 years ago. I visited the Louve, Versailles, and walked my ass off throughout Paris in one day. I guess I was motivated, I would love to know how many miles I covered. At any rate, that evening I had the most intense/excruciating pain in my heels (both of them). I literally could hardly touch my feet, much less walk on them. My feet appeared to be swollen and I assumed big time inflamed. I spent three days and sleepless nights languishing in my hotel room and managed to eat junk food saved in my back pack. At the end of the third day I crawled (I'm not kidding) to front desk and called home, in tears I explained to my family that my planned two month trip would be cut short to 5 days. I was worried how I would get to the airport.
The next morning I was still in the same amount of pain, and terribly scared. However, a rage consumed me that not only was my trip ruined, but my body seemed to betray me. In a blind rage I threw on my clothes, shoes, and back pack, and stumbled out of the room. The pain was so severe that I grit my teeth as I limped to a nearest bench, rested, and then stumbled on. My attitude was "screw it" they can amptutate my goddamned feet later, but it was not going to ruin my trip.
By that evening my feet were fine and seemingly back to normal. To this day, that pain eclipsed anything that I had ever felt in my life. If I had not actually experianced it, I would never have believed in such total and complete recovery in so short a time.
In retrospect, I've wondered if the pain would have lingered indefinately if I had been home. My previous TMS "problems" had always seemed to last for months or years....Perhaps my brain could no longer fool me when I pressed on and managed to continue to travel?
Any any rate, sorry for the long winded story. All I know is that my foot pain had to have been TMS, there was no other explanation.
Regards,
Doug
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| salamander |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 11:09:51
If you do a search on one of my posts I suffered from a real bad case of plantar fasciitis (the worst pain I've ever felt bar none). I was on a trip in Europe and was totally hobbled by it. Could not walk, could not put any pressure on my feet. Several days languishing in a hotel room. Finally, in a practical rage I literally walked myself out of it. Tears running down my face.
I had decided they could amputate after I returned from my trip. Within two days the pain vanished. If I had not experianced this myself, I would not believe it.
Doug
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| Fox |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 10:35:58
Thanks for the feedback. I saw that a poster named Art always ran through his bouts of PF. I, also did that (well really I walked with little interspersed bits of running), and I also stomped my foot on the pavement telling my brain I wouldn't tolerate the charade, when I had PF years once ago, and as I remember, I was okay after a week or so. But this time the PF is much more intense and because of that the thought of similar tactics is rather scary. Has anyone else out there run through their PF and did this work for you? |
| Peg |
Posted - 06/19/2009 : 17:55:50
Here's the link to the 20/20 segment:
http://tmswiki.wetpaint.com/page/The+20%2F20+segment+on+John+Sarno+and+TMS
Not sure if it's the whole show where she was one of the patients featured.
Peg
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei |
| Peg |
Posted - 06/19/2009 : 17:43:29
I think this is the diagnosis that Janette Barber had received. She was involved in the 20/20 episode that featured Dr. Sarno. She was Rosie O'Donnell's producer and was confined to a scooter due to her terrible foot pain of several years. Rosie made a plea on her show one day, asking for anyone who could help Ms Barber. The show received lots of e-mails and quite a few mentioned Dr. Sarno's work.
Ms Barber followed up, read the book, saw Dr. Sarno, attended his program and recovered totally. At the end of the show, it showed her jogging on the streets of NYC. Very cool.
I'll try to find the link to the show.
Peg
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 06/19/2009 : 17:06:51
Due to shortage of time I've only managed to put 2 stories on the PF wiki page:
http://tmswiki.wetpaint.com/page/Plantar+Fasciitis
but there are many more.
Hilary N |
