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| sdiddy |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 16:20:14
Hey all....I am a former TMS (low back) guy. Had it for 6 years after a herniation of l3 and l4. read sarno and cured myself within 3-6 months. that was about 2 years ago. have played basketball, golf, etc with minimal to no flare ups....have not any kind of chronic body pain since then, except a short period of chest pains, which i am pretty sure was stress related and TMS also, as I am 30 years old and in pretty good shape. I had slightly high cholesterol and it worried me excessively and then the chest pains started. anyways those are gone for quite awhile now. BUT, the most recent occurance is plantar fasciitis. it started about 3 months ago and I have no idea why, except for the fact that I started playing a lot more basketball. I play outdoors on a clayish type of hard surface, and i tend to jump a LOT during play. its halfcourt play, musually 1 on 1 or 2 on 2, and i jump high on pretty much every play. also, i am not sure if my shoes have enough padding, and my feet are very boney and skinny, with little padding on the bottom. I figured it was a strain or something but it didnt really go away. i dont notice it when I am playing ball, perhaps because i am just very competitive and pain takes a backseat to winning, but the aftermath is pretty bad. and mornings are the worst. I saw a doc, got xrays, he said no heel spur but probably plantar. then i realized...wait....could it be TMS? i came here and read a bunch of your helpful topics. but i wanted to really egt insight on this. Is plantar fasciitis even a real thing? or is it just manifested stress, etc. I ordered a better pair of shoes and insoles also, and await their arrival, but is this even necessary? How do you recommend that I test this to see if its legit or TMS? when i had back problem, i would simply say, its just TMS, and visualize blood flowing into my back. that healed me. I can try the same with my foot and see what happens. any other ideas? also the pain isnt always there. there are some days its just gone. but it DOES seem to correlate with either basketball or golf days. (usually hurts that night and the next day). I feel like I am too young to be having these issues at 30, and I beat TMS before and if this is it again, i will beat it again. but any advice is greatly appreciated. thanks! |
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| HilaryN |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 05:09:15
I've just realised that we don't have a PF or Foot Pain page on the TMS wiki as yet, so I've rectified that and added the pages:
Plantar Fasciitis
Foot Pain
They need expanding so if anyone fancies researching some success stories to add to the page, you'd be doing a great service to the future TMS community, as many people new to TMS find it helpful to read success stories of people who have had the same symptom as them.
If you're currently suffering from one of these conditions it would be a great way to encourage yourself by researching the Success Stories.
I'll be doing an online "guided tour" training session on how to edit the wiki on Sunday May 31st:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5693
but if you want to get stuck in before then, don't hesitate to contact me if you want any advice or guidance. (You can click on my profile to contact me, or contact Forest by sending an email to info @ tmswiki. org without the spaces.)
Hilary N |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 05/19/2009 : 04:25:15
I haven't a clue what planter fascitis or neuroma or any of those fancy terms are, other than something to do with foot pain.
But I know my TMS will try and trick me into thinking certain shoes are causing me pain. Often I'll shove the shoes to the back of the cupboard if I'm feeling in a cowardly mood.
I remember one such pair of shoes re-surfaced when I was digging for a pair of shoes to go out in and I thought to myself, "I haven't worn these in a while." Then I remembered why.
I was going out dancing and I thought to myself, "Well, it's a 2-minute walk to the Underground station this end, 3-minute walk at the other end, then I'll change into my dance shoes. I'm sure I can survive that and it'll be a good chance to challenge the TMS without raising the pain-fear factor too much."
I got to the club, changed my shoes, but found that the dance floor was like an ice-rink, it was so slippery. So I changed back into my 1st pair (the pair that supposedly caused me pain), because they had better grip.
I danced the night away without any pain at all!
Here's another foot-story of mine:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5216
Hilary N |
| crk |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 19:23:19
Here is what Sarno says about PF in Healing Back Pain, p. 117: "[It] seems quite clearly to be a manifestation of TMS." The fact that it is tied to your activity is a typical TMS fake-out. Remember, TMS must be believable to succeed.
Your feet are strong. You are strong and healthy. Feet are amazing; our species never would have gotten this far if they were not.
Good luck, CRK (who pounds her 50 y.o. feet with 55 miles per week of running even though she was never athletic before age 44  ) |
| flutterby |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 17:07:08
Funny you should mention plantar fasciitis! I was talking to my daughter the other day about the fact that I thought it must have been another manifestation of TMS when I had it about 9 years ago. It was so painful that putting my foot to the ground was agony and I was given crutches and referred to the podiatric clinic. A very serious-looking young podiatrist frightened the life out of me by opening the conversation with, 'I don't think we need to be thinking in terms of surgery - yet!' He told me that my arch had dropped as a result of ageing and I was given specially made orthotics to support the arch, which I wore all the time and it improved considerably.
But then I discovered crocs and wear them most of the time (for my back pain!) and now realise that I forgot all about my PF and orthotics - don't even know where they are! And I don't have any footpain, apart from, until recently, some sciatic pain in a different part of my foot. So what happened to my fallen arch? Did it suddenly spring back into place? It doesn't seem to need supporting now even though I certainly haven't got any younger!!! |
| pan |
Posted - 05/18/2009 : 16:48:52
Hi, just to say that this is something that I am dealing with at the moment as well. The past 2 years have seen me suffering from a bagful of somatic anxiety symptoms and the foot issue is something that popped up about 3 months back. I haven't bothered seeing a GP as I know I will just get 'the look' and he will add it to the 101 other things I have brought to his attention. I have sort of self diagnosed plantar...my pain is on the instep/bottom of my foot on the inner side and just basically feels like a deep bruise...like yourself I can go days or even a week with out any pain at all and then other days it will kill like a bugger!!
So, is this somatic/TMS? I'm at a loss...lol! I have had a variety of other more impressive symptoms that seem to be somatic in nature so I would not be surprised if this was to. What is strange, and you have alluded to this as well, is that there seems no real physiological pattern to it...it rarely hurts during exercise but can flare afterwards and just seems really random and not what you would expect from something that was totally organically based.
One theory I have is that on many occasions the pain/discomfort has made me feel that it is just not worth going for a walk/cycle as it is too painful but 9/10 if I ignore that and I 'just do it' the pain will subside and it will be fine. I have decided to increase my cycling and general activity level and no doubt this will flare up in protest but I'm going to risk pushing through it. |
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