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| Brenda |
Posted - 05/06/2009 : 22:34:12
I am new here!
I have had low back pain for about 8 years..it can be severe at times.
I have been diagnosed with Sacroilliac Joint Dysfunction...
That bascially means my SI joint locks...
I go to my chiropractor and he fixes it and I am fine, I usually walk out a new, happy person.
But I realize this is not curing me. I read Dr. Sarno's book called The Divided Mind, and could not believe my eyes,alot of it was me!
I have most of the personality traits, weird childhood...etc!
And to my surprise my back pain pretty much went away for a few weeks after reading the book..So,I have been thinking TMS since....BUT, here is where I need your help, I still can't shake the fact that I have SI joint dysfunction...My pain is ALWAYS in the exact same spot,(doesn't move) and the chiro always corrects it, and I always feel great afterward.
So, sometimes I second guess if I have TMS...And Dr. Sarno says to stop all treatments...I couldn't function if I did that!
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
Thanks So Much
Brenda
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| Albert |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 14:11:47
Hello Brenda:
I've found that specific psychological/emotional issues cause energetic blocks within different parts of our body. Perhaps when you get a chiropractic adjustment this releases some of the built up energy for a temporary period of time, but eventually it builds up again and the excess energy causes nerves to be activated that cause pain by themselves or cause muscular tissue to contract in a way that is uncomfortable.
I've found that the part of the body you're talking about could relate to sexual issues.
Perhaps before you go to sleep you might want to pray for a dream or set the intent to have a dream, according to how you view things, that gives you a clue as to what is causing pain in the part of your body that troubles you. I've tried this approach a number of times with success.
There have been occasions where while meditating I would ask what's causing pain in a particular part of my body, I would be shown a symbolic visual image that pertained to the responsible psychological issue, get clear on the issue, and the pain would go away. When we take care of such issues not only do we improve physically, we also improve psychologically and spiritually. |
| crk |
Posted - 05/13/2009 : 09:11:53
Hi Brenda! Sorry to be posting late, but I just noticed your thread. Hey! SI Joint Dysfunction was MY last back diagnosis (in a line of others) before I discovered Sarno! Yep. I saw it, right there on the CT scan. (Cue violins.) Fortunately, I was given Sarno's book a few painful months later and darn if that supposedly incurable defect stopped hurting within days! It took about 2 weeks for it to be completely gone.
SI Joint Dysfunction is a crock of you know what. That is not causing your pain, no matter how bad it looks on the scan. You must believe this! Your back is fine. It is strong and healthy and capable!
The journaling may indeed stir up those negative thoughts. That is correct. You must continue to do it anyway. Eventually your subconscious will learn that the distraction is pointless. At the same time, you must try to stop worrying about the pain. You don't have to think about the negative stuff all day, but you have to keep going back to it, just to shine a light on what the subconscious wants to bury. Keep reading the posts here on this forum and especially the success stories. Mine is posted under the title "It's leaving, again."
Best wishes to you! You can do this! You are one of the lucky ones, because you have discovered the truth. Your freedom is coming. |
| pandamonium |
Posted - 05/12/2009 : 02:11:09
Hi Brenda,
as far as the physical aspects go, I found this article very helpful in terms of believing that structural abnormality does not necessariliy=pain.
As for the emotional stuff, yes you will stir things up but you need to feel the emotions, don't just stuff them away and consider that you have "dealt" with them. Journalling can help. I found the Presence Process by Micheal Brown very useful too for identifying emotions and feeling them.
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| Brenda |
Posted - 05/11/2009 : 19:50:08
Thank you to all that responded...I take all your thoughts into consideration.
I am still struggeling with the "physical" part of my back pain.
Also, I have some trouble with the "daily" reflection or homework as Dr. Sarno states we should do...
Don't that just keep all the negative emotions from our past stirred up...?
Shouldn't we let all the anger, rage, sadness go...?
Have any of you found this a problem for you?
Thanks
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| pandamonium |
Posted - 05/08/2009 : 02:29:12
I never had SI joint disfunction but I had debilitating SI pain for 10 years, and am completely pain free now, a year after reading HBP. (my story is on the success stories if you are interested).
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| scd1833 |
Posted - 05/07/2009 : 19:16:12
I had the same kind of sacro-illiac pain for years, it was TMS. it's gone now, it's time to give the chiropractor the boot, he's only perpetuating the pain syndrome. I'd suggest reading healing back pain 30 minutes every day for at least a month |
| Woodchuck |
Posted - 05/07/2009 : 13:49:30
Hi Brenda,
I can't of course say that your case is the same as mine, but check my thread at the link below which I posted back in 2007.
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3049&SearchTerms=sacroilliac
Shortly after that post, I decided to consider my condition totally TMS and within a week or so (if I recall correctly), the pain/symptoms were virtually gone with maybe a couple of very minor flareups along the way, but I have not since gone to a chiropractor and prior to that, I had tried 4 different ones thinking each time that they were helping me. BTW, I did buy the book I give the link to in my post, but just looking at it made the situation worse, so I think I finally threw it away ;)
Anyway, I hope my case will encourage you to at least give the idea of TMS a full go before spending extra money and lots of time possibly chasing ghosts. The mind is powerful and I was convinced initially that my situation was NOT TMS since my symptoms were so specfic as yours appear to be.
All the best!
Ken |
| HellNY |
Posted - 05/07/2009 : 12:56:56
Brenda -
I have long noted that many forms of pain are highly specific and definitely have an anatomical location. They can be in a fixed place and even respond to certain physical treatments and accomodations, but as you noted they keep coming back.
What I have hypothesized is that TMS is essentially a condition where blood flow is restricted and certain muscles and tendons tend to be chronically contracted....all due to the increased autonomic "fight or flight" that Fred Amir (a Sarno disciple) talks about. You can substitute "respressed rage" if you like.
The point is, with chronically reduced blood flow and chronic tissue contraction, each person is likely to develop highly specific "pain areas." Its probably the naturally "tightest point" in your body to begin with, so when TMS ratchets up the tension and oxygen deprivation, its always that same spot that hurts. And of course, mnassage and heat or adjustment temporarily "helps" because the pain is indeed working through that spot in your body. Your blood IS decreased there and the fascia may be contracted. But the cause is brain/mind/emotional. It just tends to affect certain areas first.
In my case, I am certain this is true. If I work on my feet all day I start to develop plantar fascitis. But there are times when I work with a hammer a lot and my hands develop horrrible pains and cramps. If I work at a computer then I sometimes get radiating pains in my legs and arms.
Each activity places demands on certain areas of teh body. A "normal" person can handle this. A person with TMS, with teh chronically tensed involuntary muscles, chronically reduced blood flow, experiences pain in all sorts of areas - depending on which are under demand - because teh whole system is under tension.
If you started to place an enormous amount of tension on a tree, eventually cracks develop. Those cracks will occur at the weakest points. But the cause is not the cracks. The cause is the tension. |
| mizlorinj |
Posted - 05/07/2009 : 12:08:00
Hello and welcome.
I new the chiro wasn't the answer for me because though I was pain-free driving home after "getting cracked", the pain returned within a half hour. At that point I realized something more was going on than just needing cracking. I thought why would I need to be cracked all the time?!?!? Seems unnatural. LOL
Do you have a TMS doc near you to see what he or she thinks? Why not try the TMS program and see if it works for you. There is a lot of "stuff" stored up in us that needs to be released.
TMS pain doesn't have to move around. In some it remains the same symptom in the same place.
Hope you find what works for you.
-Lori |
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