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| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/21/2004 : 19:35:58
I notice the topic of a lot of the inquiry type posts is always about therapy.
I just wanted to re-state what I've tacked on in a number of strings.Most if not all therapists who are Phd's,are generally trained in the art of guiding the patient to their own anger/childhood rage/current life frustrations and realities.
I'm not certain a Doc fluent in TMS would be any more directive towards the issues that are underlying our condition.I'm sure they are great,but so are many many other therapists.....I've seen a couple of different ones due to moves and insurance considerations,and every single one of them INSTANTLY agreed with Sarno's diagnosis,and helped me get to the necessary issues/topics with great efficiency.
When I read HBP,I assumed that when Sarno said Therapy he meant any old therapist(qualified)...I didn't need one to get rid of the symptoms,but I DID need one once the pain was gone,and I realized what a ball of rage I really was.
So,do not fear if you can't get the "right" therapist...anybody who's a psychologist or psychiatrist HAD to study Freud,Jung and all the other meat and potatoes type of analysis as part of their training.
The only people I'd stay away from are those 1 year-credentialed non-doctor "god license" "counselours" that are all over the place in California....it's the only state that I know of that will let you hang a shingle with 12 months of instruction.....usually for Marriage,Chemical dependency and Anger Management(LOL!!)
Hell....I think I'll go back to Junior College and be an Anger Management counselour....
It probably pays better than painting.
peace
Baseball65 |
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| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/22/2004 : 11:21:10
Hi Polly.
You are too kind....I have been forced to this kind of candor by "the great persuader"...Pain! Mental,emotional,and physical.In that respect,I am only a lucky victim.
About Gestalt therapy:
Besides writing,I have realized that the only way I can stay sane and pursue my "for-money" trade,is to have DaILy Gestalt sessions.
One of the things that I discovered in conventional therapy,was that I really deeply resent the fact that I am a manual laborer.I am smarter,faster and more dynamic than most of my bosses.To them,the profession of painting is their ultima thule...the highest aspiration they could have achieved with their neanderthal mentality......I am usually the guy at work who DIDN'T watch TV last night,didn't go to the strip bar with the guys at lunch,and couldn't care less who wins monday night football.I DON'T think it's OK to cheat on my spouse,I DO think it's OK to dodge work to play ball with my kid....I'm definitely outside the margins of your typical construction worker.
I read lots of books,study religion and science,love hanging out with my wife....in fact she always calls me her "best girlfriend"
So,Of course I am CONSTANTLY in conflict with someone or something at work...never about the actual work..I'm a TMSer...I CAN'T do a bad job no matter how rushed or pressured I am.
So....On the way home EVERY DAY...I imagine whoever (usually my BOSS) is sitting next to me in my car.I go into an in depth discussion as to their idiotic procedural inefficiency,their lack of professionalism,their hypocritical vascillating standards and their personal moral emptiness.
I then proceed into a boisterous profanity laced tirade,including fantasies of dumping paint buckets on their 85 IQ heads,and lots of other stuff that would not be OK to post here on the forum.
It's a developed visualization technique....and one of the main parts of gestalt therapy.It is quite cathartic,and actually leaves me in a really calm quiet mood when I get home to play Mr. Mom for the boys.Before I employed this tactic,I used to come home wiped out and crabby....now I come home relaxed and energized..quite the opposite of what one might think after such a negative experience.
One of my close friends reminded me that it smacked of Orwells "5 minute hate" in the novel 1984
He was quite right....kind of scary,but it really excorcises the demons and leaves one's mind clear to move forward and not aquire baggage....like any skill,It's gotten better with practice.
If you find a Gestalt therapist PLEASE let me know what techniques you are instructed in...I know it works for me,and it has made me be able to function symptom free for a long time in a rage -producing environment.
I can't afford therapy for the time being,but would love to become even more streamlined in maintaining a balance between income-reality-physical well being.I've learned as much on this forum as I did in my own therapy.
have a great Holiday!
peace
Baseball65 |
| polly |
Posted - 12/21/2004 : 20:28:02
Marc,
I bet there are plenty of therapists that got their training off the net!
I think you have to find some with credentials and is a good fit. That's the key. Then it's off to the races to try and open up those locked doors in our phyches.
Sarno recommended that I go back to therapy and I saw one of the people that he works with. She was great. Infortunatly, I came down to Florida for a few weeks and I've been here over a year now.
Somewhere in MBP, he mentions a type of therapist. I'll look it up. I think he says something about Gestalt.
Polly
btw, I think you are extraordinary. You are mental health and openess personified. |
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