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| Elorac |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 03:37:00
Has anyone experienced excessive shivering as a TMS symptom?
For the last few years I have occasionally had times when I have suddenly got a cold shiver up my back while in bed at night, and once it has happened I could never get warm for the rest of the night and would keep shivering. It wasn't actually cold, it was just me, and I thought that maybe it was something pre-menopausal.
Last night shortly after going to bed, I started with one of these shivering things, and I suddenly thought that maybe it was a TMS symptom. Normally, as I said, once I get shivery like this I just can't get warm again, but this time, I said to myself, it's just TMS, and said it in my mind over and over for a few minutes, and then the shivering just stopped! Amazing.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had shivering as a symptom. Presumably it is controlled by the autonomic nervous system, so it could well be. |
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Posted - 09/17/2008 : 07:14:39
I have excessive shivering that seems to be associated with sudden temperature changes (i.e. from warm to cold). Anxiety very likely plays an underlying role in the entire phenomenon, but for me the individual symptoms don't seem to be accompanied by a immediately preceding negative thought.
My hands and feet are usually cold, and I would keep my apartment at 80 degrees all day long if it was just up to me! ;) |
| justme |
Posted - 09/16/2008 : 16:49:39
Hi-
I have had some experience with the shivers. For me it manifests when I am in a discussion with someone else and the subject matter is very "scary" to me. By "scary" I mean that the subject matter brings up feelings that are associated with past negative experiences I have had. For example, a friend starts talking about how her significant other hurting her. It causes me to engage in the conversation and before you know it my legs are trembling and so is my chest.
My mother has had this symptom for quite a few years now. It happens to her mainly in the winter, so she thinks it is just related to the cold. I have always doubted that since she is a very anxious person. |
| Peg |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 19:39:21
Very interesting Elorac. Yes, I agree that the mind and our thoughts (especially what we expect to experience during menopause) has an effect on what we actually experience. Also, I suspect, the amount of attention we give to our symptoms affects their quality.
I decided to just relax and go with the flow (no pun intended) when I started to have hot flashes and have found them to have only lasted a few months. I see it as a natural process.
Of course I hope I haven't just jinxed myself and they start back up! :)
I like your expression "TMS busting methods".
Best
Peg
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei |
| Elorac |
Posted - 09/15/2008 : 09:19:11
The shivering episodes are only occasionally, maybe 3 or 4 times a year. The one I had the other night was the first one since I learned about TMS ( a couple of months ago). There had been a few things going on recently which had made me feel a bit anxious, so that may have been the cause. As for the previous times when it has happened, I didn't know about TMS then, and I can't specifically fit any of them to a stressful time. They have never frightened me, just been a nuisance. I am learning to try my TMS busting methods on any symptoms that crop up. It's worth a try isn't it? I will probably have the "shivers" again sometime, and if I can make it go away again then I will know that it's definitely TMS.
Yesterday I came across an old "menopause forum" which seemed to be from a few years ago, but on there, there were several women who said that they were experiencing night shivers which sounded exactly like mine. Could that mean that some menopause/ peri-menopause symptoms are actually TMS, and that we experience them because we expect to? Food for thought... |
| wrldtrv |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 15:55:38
I used to get the shivering you talk about. It would happen early in the AM when I would wake up suddenly and not be able to got back to sleep. For me, it was obviously a minor panic attack because it would happen every morning during a very stressful period in my life. |
| Peg |
Posted - 09/14/2008 : 14:03:26
Hi
While I have not experienced the "shivering" you describe, the fact that it spontaneously resolved after you talked to your brain would certainly point towards TMS. Very wise of you to think of that approach. Very interesting experience, thanks for sharing it.
I have expereinced shivering when I am very anxious, but not out of the blue like yours. It is strange that it would continue all night.Sounds like the chills one would get with a flu or virus, preceding a fever, but you don't mention illness associated with it. Did it frighten you? Perhaps that is what caused it to continue? The difference last night was that rather than being frightened or worried, you calmly reassured yourself that it was harmless. The same thing can happen with other TMS symptoms when we react in the same way.
Do you remember what you were thinking about or what was going on in your life prior to the episodes?
Glad you were able to avoid a prolonged experience with it.
Best
Peg
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei |
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