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| 1yehmon2 |
Posted - 05/18/2008 : 18:14:11
I totally believe in TMS. I have no doubts whatsoever that I have it. I have been journaling, pain talk, Everything that has been suggested. I seem to be getting just the smallest speck better with the back pain, but now I have been really really sick for 6 weeks with allergy symptoms that started at the same time that I started treating my TMS. There does not seem to be really any physical reason for all these symptoms. Pollen count in the area are low. Cat scan shows sinuses clear. Could this also be TMS? I can't think of anything else. I am so depressed!!!! All the TMS doctors are thousands of miles away. Any suggestions or help would be really appreciated. How are you to be able to dig up repressed emotions that by their very name are repressed? Hypnosis? |
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| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 05/19/2008 : 13:46:41
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It's been a tough six weeks digging up alot of ugly stuff, doing alot of crying, etc. All to no avail...it's basically depressed me and given me very little pain relief
This approach may not necessarily be the right one for you at this point in time. Dr. Sarno's belief is that we need to understand and be aware of the possible causes for our symptoms (hence journaling and thinking psychological) but the idea isn't to spend hours and hours dwelling and getting depressed. The idea is to understand the load you are carrying that is coming out in symptoms, and to understand it is okay to have those feelings and they do not have to be dealt with by having pain to distract you from them. But you need to then move on toresume normal life, as appropriate, knowing that it is these emotions that are causing the symptoms and nothing physical. The symptoms may not go away until you determinedly either confront or ignore them for long enough. It takes time; it's not an instant thing.
If the feelings do come out, feel them, and let them pass by. Don't dwell once the energy is discharged. The feeling of emotions passing through should (although painful) ultimately feel positive and liberating.
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| seimon_23 |
Posted - 05/19/2008 : 11:23:14
Stick with it buddy! I know it sounds like a cliche but keeping to the program is the only way to really get better. I was in a very similar place to you only a few months ago: in pain, frustrated, depressed becuase of all the digging around in my psyche but now, I feel like I've turned a corner. I'm not cured yet but, I'm definitely moving in the right direction.
From my own experience, I would say that taking a good long look at the root causes of stress and anxiety in your life is a good start. After a while though, you just end up going round in circles and getting more depressed. The 'breakthrough' for me came when I realised that my body had become conditioned to feel this pain. Even though I'd confronted the psychological basis for it, my mind had convinced my body that certain activities would result in pain so, my symptoms persisted.
Only by realising that my pain was a conditioned response to certain physical stimuli and getting to work on breaking that conditioning did I start to get better.
If you haven't already, I'd recommend reading Fred Amir's book, 'Rapid Recovery from Back and Neck Pain' it contains a lot of useful information and a step by step plan for recovery and it's really helping me.
Above all, keep going. Remember that each day is a battle: some you'll win and some you'll loose but, in the long run, you'll win the war |
| Peg |
Posted - 05/19/2008 : 09:18:35
You said:
What is my next step...patience?
Yes patience, and being kind to yourself.
You said:
I did have a very upsetting, major blow up with several family members.
This would give me TMS symptoms too. While I have not had allergies as my TMS, I've had just about every other TMS equivalent. Sounds like you've been working very hard to apply Dr. Sarno's information to your life. Maybe too hard. You might want to journal about the family incident, or write letters to family members (that you won't be sending-just to get the feelings out)about how you feel. Most importantly, try to do something you enjoy (listen to music, take time in nature, do something physical that you like, watch a funny movie....). Get some positive feelings going if you can. Take care of yourself. If you believe you have TMS, you can get better.
Good luck
In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual. Galileo Galilei |
| 1yehmon2 |
Posted - 05/18/2008 : 21:25:40
I keep reading that we need to bring up the repressed emotions and let them see the light of day. Brady's really good book, "Pain Free For Life, tells about the importance of digging up all the supressed emotions that we have hid in the boxes in the basement, and bring them up. I have been reading alot of related books, and just get the impression that we are to deal with all the suppressed emotions to get rid of the pain. It's been a tough six weeks digging up alot of ugly stuff, doing alot of crying, etc. All to no avail...it's basically depressed me and given me very little pain relief. I really feel that going to counseling could not possibly dig up more repressed emotions than I have done on my own with all the in depth questions that were asked in Brady's book. Boy that was not fun! What is my next step...patience? I did have a very upsetting, ongoing major blow up with several family members |
| AmyAJJ |
Posted - 05/18/2008 : 21:00:13
Yes on the allergies being TMS in my experience. As you're doing your TMS work, consider what was going on in your life 6 weeks ago right before you got sick with all these allergy symptoms. Remember, it doesn't have to be something terrible that happened. Even a wedding, or the birth of a child, promotions, (typically "happy" events) can bring about TMS symptoms.
If you can't think of anything that was going on 6 weeks ago, start including in your TMS self-talk that you're aware that the repressed emotions are there and manifesting themselves as these allergies that you're experiencing. You don't have to know what the repressed emotions are about. I know how frustrating it can be when you think you need to know this! I've definitely been there. But you really don't have to know what the repressed emotions are related to. Just remind yourself that there ARE repressed emotions there and that that's what's fueling the symptoms that you're having.
Stay with it. Your symptoms won't necessarily disappear overnight even though you wish they would. Be sure to not only do the pain talk that you said you were doing, but make sure to talk to your sinuses, eyes, sneezing, whatever the symptom is that you're experiencing. Focus on those rather than the idea of pain because you're not dealing with pain right now. You're dealing with those other symptoms.
I've also found it helpful with my allergy related TMS to remind myself that I am safe.
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| mk6283 |
Posted - 05/18/2008 : 19:12:12
Definitely TMS, so stick with it and don't be deterred. We are all different -- a symptom that takes one person a day to get over may take another a year to get over. However, I see no harm in taking something (Claritin, Allegra, etc.) to control the symptoms until you can get it under control with the TMS work. The meds are usually quite effective. Why suffer if you don't have to? Good luck.
Best,
MK |
| scottjmurray |
Posted - 05/18/2008 : 18:40:18
yeah seasonal allergies are tms. i got over mine last week in about a day after i felt confirmed from this forum. my "allergies" actually had a lot to do with this girl i was dating at the time.
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