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| mala |
Posted - 05/08/2008 : 03:44:25
Hi everyone. I have been battling back pain for some years now and had some dramatic relief for about one & a half years. The pain was always been in sacral region of my back. It was a constant inflammation kind of pain and got worse when sitting.
In December 07, the pain came back. Now I have discovered the pain may be linked to fibroids I have in my uterus. Let me explain.
In 1999 I was diagnosed with 5 fibroids the largest of which was 11cms. Although they were not causing any pain they had begun to push against other organs as they were growing bigger and bigger. Fibroids are caused by too much estrogen in the body and apparently there can be a surge of estrogen in the body during perimenopuse. The doctor asked me to do nothing except moinitor them . 6 months later they had grown even bigger so I had a myomectomy which means removing the fibroids surgically but keeping the uterus. On operating, it was discovered that I actually had 7 growths & not 5. Now this is where the story begins.
Up till this point I had never had back pain but about 10 months after the operation in 2000 I started getting back pain. I never associated the pain with anything to do with the operation but I have since discovered that surgery of this sort can lead to pain in the pelvic region afterwards due to a number of reasons like adhesions or the shape of the uterus changing etc.
Anyway the pain stopped 2 years ago when my periods stopped too. Then suddenly in December 07 I had a period and the pain started again. Last week I went to see the doctor for a check up since I have been getting pain in my uterus as well and guess what I have 2 fibroids and each one is 5cm. My periods have started again and so has the back pain. This time the fibroids actually hurt especially when I turn sides during my sleep.
Can anyone tell me what they think. Might this not be TMS?
I so need some relief from the pain. It's driving me mad!!! Thank you.
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
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| Susie |
Posted - 05/10/2008 : 12:52:57
Baseball, I'm totally with you. I do remember the thread. I also think it possible that the physical can tweak us and then tms can take it to a much higher level. I agree with you that sooner or later, we feel it in our gut. I initialy treat everyting like tms, knowing I can still get duped into the physical. My friends say that my arm could fall off and I would treat it psycologically.
Best to you. Susie |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 05/10/2008 : 07:18:50
Hi Susie and Mala.
Note to Susie:
Did you catch the post about TMS and swelling? It's here on the board somewhere.(I'm not a good link paster but it's recent)
Apparently Sarno did mention it in MBP. That was the only book I sort of skipped (I wasn't having any symptoms when it cam out so I sort of skimmed it LOLOL)
I was just having a feeling deep down in my gut that my body can pull almost ANY trick. I'll never know for sure, or be able to prove it like 2+2=4, but that post and the info provided was sort of relevant. It's hard to remember all of this stuff some times.
-peace and thanks again
BB65 |
| Susie |
Posted - 05/09/2008 : 13:47:59
Mala, for what it's worth, I had really huge fibroids that I think were hormonal driven. Switching from estrogen to hrt therapy totally shrunk them. That was 7 years ago. I'm sure the type of therapy would depend on your age. The pill I took was femhrt. I know everyone is different.
By the way, my brilliant advice to Baseball about his knee hit home last week. I had a really bad week and began horrible pain in my right knee. It was slightly swollen and I could hardly walk. I was very active the day before, and totally bought into a horrible sprain or a torn meniscus. Originaly, I was sure it was tms but after everyone screaming at me to "go to the doctor", I began to believe it. I refused the doctor but bought an ace bandage and continually iced it and kept it elevated. Yesterday, I watched the Sarno interview someone posted and realized I was nuts. I traced the pain to my bad week and figured it must be tms. Upon realization, the pain jumped to the other knee. Then I was sure it was tms. By the way, I am almost pain free today and have spent all day on my feet.
So, back to your question, tms or real, who knows? The hormones worked immediately for me but I would still keep the gremlin on my mind. At some point, you'll know. |
| mala |
Posted - 05/08/2008 : 19:21:50
Thanks Baseball65 for yr very prompt reply. The difficulty for me is deciding whether I should be treating the pain as tms or otherwise. Believe me I have been trying my darndest to ignore the pain for the last 5 months but it hasn't budged. I try doing things like staying active and I have been seeing a personal trainer for 4 months now but the pain will not move. It's there 24/7.
Lori, I too have read that fibroids can be a result of deep seated anger. Having said that, it is more common for women who have not had children like myself to get fibroids. Again it may be to do with hormones.
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| mizlorinj |
Posted - 05/08/2008 : 07:09:11
Did you see Dr. Christiane Northrup on Oprah some weeks back (maybe 2 months?) She is an MD who speaks of the mind/body connection (at least some of the time). There was Q&A part, and Dr. Northrup asked the woman who had fibroids if she was in a dead end job or relationship. . . so fibroids can have an emotional cause. . .
-Lori |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 05/08/2008 : 05:30:15
Hi Mala! Long time... we missed you.
I've learned more about physiology on this board than I ever did in school. I just read this at the Mayo clinic:
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Uterine fibroids are noncancerous growths of the uterus that often appear during your childbearing years. Also called fibromyomas, leiomyomas or myomas, uterine fibroids aren't associated with an increased risk of uterine cancer and almost never develop into cancer.
As many as three out of four women have uterine fibroids, but most are unaware of them because they often cause no symptoms. Your doctor may discover them incidentally during a pelvic exam or prenatal ultrasound.
In general, uterine fibroids cause no problems and seldom require treatment. Medical therapy and surgical procedures can shrink or remove fibroids if you have discomfort or troublesome symptoms. Rarely, fibroids can require emergency treatment if they cause sudden, sharp pelvic pain.
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So it seems the good news is, you don't have cancer. The bad news is, that it's bugging you.
I just went through a deal with my knee that Susie told me was definitely NOT Tms. It felt swollen and was immobile.It seemed plausible since I live on my knees (Physically as well as metaphorically)
However, it began to occupy all the same spots in my brain that TMS has in the past e.g. thoughts of "Oh no... here it goes, I'm a cripple" "Now I'll have to be careful" (my biggest fear) ...and it just had waaay too much of my attention and was waaay too conveniently located chronologically next to something that has always triggered TMS symptoms when I am not in a good place psychologically.
So..I've treated it as TMS, went through the work again as if it were TMS and it has been reduced to a vapor again , just like all of my other clearly TMS like symptoms. After reading some posts on other topics and doing the divided mind mambo, I am certain it was TMS though it was diagnosed as a 'purely physical' process. One of the clues was that it turned painful in places and at times that didn't match up with what the MD's said. It also turned painful right after the MD 'drained it' tha was supposed to end any discomfort.
Only you will ever really know for sure, but it seems like something that needs a Drs. input.
My wife has a tumor on her pituitary from a similar situation (too much of one of the certain hormones) She got double vision and was dizzy all of the time. Coincidentally my boss at Paramount came down with the same exact tumor in the same exact place at the same exact time. He had an operation to have it removed (pretty spooky..right on your brain) My wife did hormone therapy and her symptoms stopped. The tumor is still there...it's just sitting there on her brain doing nothing (Hmmmm??...well nothing we can blame directly)
It might be a good time to review. Why might you need this right now from an emotional standpoint? What should you be angry about that you've convinced yourself you are OK with?
The answer might be hidden in there. These fibroids don't seem all that uncommon.
Hope you figure it out.
-peace BB65 |
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