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| cheryld10 |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 11:18:24
It baffles me that nobody I talk to even knows what TMS stands for. I joined all kinds of "back problems" forums online and the only TMS that these people know of is "transcranial magnetic stimulation".
I'm wondering why there aren't more TMS sucess stories hitting these message boards. I did see one, and nobody commented. Those message boards and online back pain groups are full of people (even people in their 20's) all drugged out and going for surgery after surgery. Of course they all think I need surgery after I posted my ugly looking MRI. It's embedded in their minds that our bodies are fragile and falling apart and need reconstruction at every turn. It's sad. What is wrong with doctors?
Cheryl |
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| Stryder |
Posted - 02/23/2008 : 10:36:37
Read my reply over here... http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4355
Take care, -Stryder |
| mizlorinj |
Posted - 02/21/2008 : 08:22:28
I do believe it's that many are closed minded. Dr. Sarno's books quote studies that show older people are just not open to their mind and emotions playing a role in their physical health. The older the group, the more closed-minded. Not that it's older people only who don't accept the mind/body relationship. I realize it's all ages. It's how they were raised and conditioned; sad really. I look at my dad who just refuses to accept that pains in knee, etc. could be emotionally related. I even see how when he has elevated pain it's because of something going on in his life. But he doesn't see it. He saw me go from crawling and crying to up and about in a short time, but still, it doesn't click for him. He even went to a TMS doc here in NJ and was diagnosed with--you guessed it--TMS!!! That was 10 months ago. But continues to go from doc to doc with no diagnosis or result. I feel sad about this but I accept that I cannot make him see his healing is up to him!! I do believe we are used to looking for the easy way out--take a pill and cover the symptom. Happy that I am not like that! Get me to the cause to eliminate it!
So many will balk at the mind/body relationship. But those of us who have experienced the role the mind plays in our healing are absolutely convinced of our emotional health in our physical health and well being! And I'm grateful for the knowledge and understanding I've attained though it's sad others don't seem to want to benefit from this!
I was just privy to a conversation of a friend who is having hip resurfacing done. Boy was it hard to restrain myself, but he is sold on having it done. So be it. He is aware of my "back pain" episode and subsequent "miraculous" drug & surgery-free healing. I have found people don't bite on the tidbits I give so I leave it.
If you watch the 20/20 clip, John Stossel's own brother, a doctor, is totally closed minded to TMS. Well, too bad for him.
And yes, when you call to make an appt. w/ Dr. Sarno, he talks to you for about 30 seconds to see if you are open to having TMS and working on emotional issues. Of course I was! I was crying in pain at the time. Gotta love that man.
-Lori |
| positivevibes |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 18:34:45
I think that a lot of people just don't understand and are close-minded.
As for myself....six months ago, when I was in the middle of all my terrible back pain, nobody could have ever convinced me that the pain was psychological in nature. People often come to Sarno's methods as a last resort. That pretty much explains how I got here. Fortunately, surgery was never part of the equation with me. Heck, I even rejected cortisone shots and sought alternate treatments instead.
There's still too much of a stigma surrounding problems that are psychological in nature. People resent the suggestion and what it represents.
In my own situation...after reading Sarno's books, I began to analyze my past episodes of back pain, and realized that there was usually a lot of stress in my life at those times, or emotional turmoil, or both. It just made sense. I thought about what sorts of things I might be repressing in my unconscious. That made sense, too.
People are afraid of Sarno's theories, and they may think it is new age quackery. But how do you explain pain disappearing after reading a book or attending a lecture? How to you explain the ability to do activities you were unable to do just weeks before, when nothing else has changed?
What is wrong with doctors: many of them are in bed with the drug companies. Mind-body medicine is largely not explored in med schools. Doctors are often overloaded and the insurance companies and HMOs reward them for seeing as many patients as possible per day. They don't have the time or inclination to help their patients beyond the usual treatments. It's rare to find a doctor who can look deeper and be open-minded. It always blows my mind that doctors never ask "what do you do for a living" or "do you feel happy?" or "how have you been feeling lately?" Those are questions for a psychologist....and you can't expect an orthopedist, who wants you out of his office in 15 mintues, to ask open-ended psycological questions.
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| drziggles |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 15:13:07
If you post about Sarno on most back pain forums (particularly the ones where people's sigs consist of all of their failed surgeries and the countless narcotic medications they are on), you will most likely be thrown off and have your posts deleted. It's pathetic and sad, but these people don't want anyone to intrude on their little pity party... |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 02/20/2008 : 11:42:05
Frequently, people on non-TMS message boards become angry and hostile when people dare to suggest that their pain may have a psychological origin. There is a great resistance to the concept. Sarno himself has said that he has to screen out many patients because they're not receptive to the concepts.
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
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