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| coldlizard |
Posted - 01/21/2008 : 11:08:33
Definitely overcome my RSI TMS now, but living with my parents, in whom I can identify so many TMS traits now that it really bugs me! For over a month now they've both been coughing at each other in a really annoying fake-sounding way. I've noticed they always do it just before or after they say mention a sensitive topic, which I think says a lot! So, I decided to check it out, and discovered 'Habit cough': http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4087/is_200410/ai_n9460092
'Habit cough' doesn't seem to show up on this forum, so I thought I'd mention it. It seems to affect kids a lot, and interestingly, there have been studies showing that ignoring it cures it, so it sounds very much like some sort of TMS that has been accepted by the wider scientific community. Maybe coughing just isn't serious enough to distract us adults, eh? ;) Article also suggests links to IBS.
Other random rambles that might be of interest to people, or might just be an outlet for me ;) include:
- I can't tell my parents I think they have TMS - I'm too afraid of sounding nutty. Anyone got any good ideas of how to get TMS more widely acknowledged?
- For some random reasons, TMS reminds me psychologically a lot of passive-aggressive behavior, just on yourself instead of others. Anyone else had this feeling? |
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| coldlizard |
Posted - 01/23/2008 : 12:45:59
Thanks everyone!
Kevin and armchair: OCD and 'objective third party' has suddenly made me remember how I found out about TMS in the first place :) I noticed I was 'obsessing' about my symptoms, making them a lot worse, and thought there had to be some sort of link, so I googled 'RSI obsess' and took the first link which was Rachel's RSI site. It only adds to the validity of Sarno's argument that his work can be independently found like that.
I guess the family link makes a lot of sense: like the whiplash in Norway, it spreads via communication. Now that we have instant global communication with the Internet, let's hope it doesn't spread a lot more.
With regards to 'spreading the message' (reminds me scarily of religion), I was wondering about if it could be done on a wider scale ...somehow. |
| Wavy Soul |
Posted - 01/23/2008 : 11:31:52
("Cough, cough...")
What do you mean, a call for attention (cough cough). i resemble that remark (cough, cough)! This is a genuine, endless FLU, for f**k's sake!
Cough, cough - can anyone hear my deep pain?
Hee hee
Thanks for your brilliance everyone
xx
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
| la_kevin |
Posted - 01/22/2008 : 12:55:12
Many people with TMS have "OCD". OCD relates to repetition and invasive thoughts,unwanted thoughts,compulsions, ruminations.
It is all the minds way of distraction, or can be viewed as such.
A high percentage of people with OCD(Obsessive Compulsive Disorder)also have some sort of "TIC" or "habbit".(YOurs truly included)
Therefor it is not surprising that someone with TMS, which in turn has a high degree of OCD sufferers,which in turn has a high degree of "TICS/Habbits"...will in turn have children or relatives with a predisposition to all the above.
But medical "experts" and the JAMA is too STUPID to see the correlation because they have never lived it and dont care.
Theres my two cents. Have fun.
:)
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"It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment." Armchairlinguist(?) |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 01/22/2008 : 11:46:48
This is very broad brush, but I would guess that 90+% of people with TMS have family members with TMS or sub-TMS-level significant psychosomatic symptoms. Since childhood experience is one of the Big Three sources of rage, it makes sense that TMS parents would pass on TMS to their kids by the way they raise them (and to the extent that personality is genetic, perhaps in their genes too).
My mom had very severe TMS symptoms (and my other immediate family has had ones ranging from minor to significant) and eventually was interested enough in what I told her about my recovery to check out Sarno. I think it has helped her, although she is still buying into physical causes for some issues that I think may originate from psychosomatic causes. As a practitioner of one type of medicine (Western) and a student of another (Chinese), I think it's hard for her to get totally away from that mindset.
I do not think it is wise to tell other people you think they have TMS because then you will end up explaining it and they hear it from you instead of from an objective third party. After I saw some interest, I think I said something like "This book helped me, maybe it will help you too. Why don't I lend it to you?"
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
| scottjmurray |
Posted - 01/22/2008 : 01:05:53
Lol. I have a math instructor that has the habit cough. I had it too, I still sometimes get it if I'm in a tense situation where I feel like I can't let out some of my darker emotions. I used to get it all the time, especially during tests when everything was really quiet. Funny in retrospect.
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- I can't tell my parents I think they have TMS - I'm too afraid of sounding nutty. Anyone got any good ideas of how to get TMS more widely acknowledged?
Yeah, not a lot of people are receptive to it. Sometimes there isn't anything you can do. I'd just tell them you think they have TMS, and if they want your help in getting over it then help them. That's what I do nowadays, instead of trying to ram the concepts down people's throat. Helps weed out who will be receptive and who will just waste your time.
Author of tms-recovery.com
A collection of articles on emotions, lifestyle changes, and TMS theory. |
| coldlizard |
Posted - 01/21/2008 : 14:47:36
Thanks miz: 'Coughing signals a cry for attention.' Sounds 100% spot on.
So does that make it TMS or not? I guess it depends on whether the attention seeking is conscious or not!
So, when I suggest cough medicine, and they refuse, am I talking to their conscience, or their TMS gremlin? Maybe that's why they look so confused in response: their rational says yes, but their gremlin says no!
Can you get cycles of TMS in families? Each caring about each others' respective symptoms?
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| mizlorinj |
Posted - 01/21/2008 : 12:45:00
Check out what Louise Hay has to say about coughing.
-L |
| electraglideman |
Posted - 01/21/2008 : 12:12:16
I have found it hard to explain TMS to someone who is really not interested to begin with. If you have a copy of Sarno's MBP show it to your parents and tell them it was a fascinating read and your aches and pains begain to vanish after reading it. |
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