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| corky21 |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 06:46:39
Hi,
I started reading Dr. Sarno's book about 4 weeks ago. I started with Healing Back Pain. I have had back pain, hip pain, shoulder pain, neck pain etc. for a while. I called it my moving pains. A few weeks ago I was looking for a book on pressure points and Dr. Sarno's book was sitting facing me. I bought it and was very interested and then read Mind over Pain, and am now 1/2 way through the Divided Mind. I also have Dr. Scott Brady's book waiting. Here's my question. I know its only a few weeks, but yesterday and the day before I had a usual pain in my left hip and back. It's like a tired achy pain, no spasm. I kept shopping and self talking and I felt really great mentally, yet the pain stayed and is still here. Today it is spreading into my mid back. I have been journaling and reading Dr. Sarno every day. I'm in the crazy hormone fluctuating phase and wonder if its because of that. I keep self talking saying its not and telling the pain to go and still going on with stuff, but I can't seem to get rid of thinking of it at times. Is that why its still there? Do you have to really forget completely about the physical? I have two bulging discs L4-L5-S1 on the right side, yet most of my pain is on the left. I said to myself awhile ago during PT that I didn't believe my pain was due to those bulging discs because the pain would be on the other side. He said it was because of the discs, etc. etc. do the stretches, etc. etc. But I didn't believe him but kept going. Then I found Dr. Sarno and that is what he said so I was hooked. But now I'm fading. Its so hard to not think about a physical pain. But I keep self talking and reading, etc. Do I just need more time??? :( |
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| lidge |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 19:54:44
Yes I didn't mean to overtake this with pain med discussion. But like Corky, I find it hard to focus when in pain. I think Sarno understands that so he will do what it takes to get you "stabilized". |
| electraglideman |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 19:07:17
I hate to keep talking physical here when the message should be psychological but anyways it sounds like the pain meds you have been taking are not what you need. |
| lidge |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 18:50:48
Electraglide-
Actually I've always found myself to be more like your wife in that regard but when it comes to this pain, I find the meds are useless. I'm just afraid not to take it because I feel it would even be worse. I wonder now whether the meds don't help much if the pain is really tension/vasoconstriction. But then I've heard people with disc problems etc. often take vicodin etc - something that I cannot easily get my hands on.
In his early book Sarno said he would prescibe heroin- bravo- at least he understands that the toll pain takes is worse than the risk of addiction. The pain management place I went only prescribes narcotics when you have cancer or terminal illness. Their fear of governmental oversight apparently outweighs their compassion for their suffering patients. |
| electraglideman |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 18:31:57
lidge I'm not a Doctor so this is just my opinion. I believe some people, like you and I, have a very high tolerance to pain medication. I was that way even as a kid. If the directions said take 1 pill every 4 hours I would take 2 every four hours to get relief. Now my wife is different. She would only have to take half of a pill with the same directions to get the same effect as I would get taking 2 pills.
Again this is just my humble opinion.
Is part of the effect placebo? I don't know. Sarno didn't say. |
| lidge |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 17:10:06
Electraglide-
One thing that puzzles me regarding painkillers (actually 2 things)
1. If your pain does not really respond to painkillers, does that mean the drug is just not strong enough or the wrong drug, or does that mean it is slam dunk TMS?
2. If pain meds give you relief, does that mean that you are just obtaining a placebo effect? Is Sarno saying that he is willing to allow patients the comfort of their placebos, or does he think that painkillers are truly relieving the pain?
I've taken lots of fairly strong painkillers with not much relief. I agree with Sarno because I feel its very difficult to focus on the psychological side of things when you are in pain.
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| electraglideman |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 16:33:27
Corky, Dr. Sarno says when the pain is just to much to ignore he will prescribe pain killers to his patients while they are going through recovery. As a matter of fact he tells a group of patients on his video they should take advantage of this offer. |
| corky21 |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 15:49:02
Thank you Hilary. I was thinking of going to see him in NY some day. I'll keep at it. |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 11/01/2007 : 14:16:54
Yes, keep on with it. In Sarno's books you get the impression that you should get better immediately but, while there are a few lucky people who do so, it takes a little longer for lots of us.
I didn't see any noticeable difference for a couple of months.
Don't get discouraged - I'm sure you'll get better.
Hilary N |
