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| vikki |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 06:13:50
So, I posted before about overcoming TMS pain (knee pain) that surfaced during marathon training. I overcame it by treating it as TMS and challenging it by keeping on running.
Now I am suffering from ankle pain, which showed up a couple of days after the knee pain disappeared. It is tender to touch, painful to walk, and far too painful to run through. The ankle pain started a week after I'd significantly reduced my weekly mileage (2 weeks out from the marathon) -- so the likelihood of getting a real injury at that time was very low. I'd like to treat it as TMS, but the thing is, my ankle is visibly swollen. I have never had visible swelling with TMS before. I went to a doctor, who told me it's a ligament/tendon injury. He said this most likely occured by turning my ankle while running. I do not remember ever turning my ankle. I went for a relatively long run last Saturday morning and felt no pain during or after the run (for the rest of the day). I first noticed the pain on Sunday morning while walking to the store. (I sprained my ankle once many years ago, and when that happened, I clearly remembered turning my ankle, and feeling pain right at that moment. It also healed within 4 days.)
Anyway, now I have a dilemma. This *could* be a real injury. But real injuries are supposed to heal -- and this one has been getting worse, if anything, over the past 10 days. (This is *despite* not running.)
I guess what I can't get past is the swelling. The doctor said of course it's swollen -- there is inflammation. He also warned me about it beccoming chronic, given that it seems not to be getting better. Now, I know from reading Sarno that "chronic injuries" are TMS. But could TMS ever cause swelling?? Or is this a real injury? And if it's a real injury, then shouldn't it be healing? This whole thing is making me question my faith in TMS -- does anyone have any advice?
Thanks! |
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| skizzik |
Posted - 10/25/2007 : 12:05:31
vikki, hows it goin?
Have you made a decision to run in the race this weekend? |
| weatherman |
Posted - 10/24/2007 : 12:50:49
I feel your pain, you've very clearly illustrated the dilemma of dealing with conventional docs, which is that they will diagnose things like strains, tendinitis etc. based on pain symptoms alone - rather than something that can be objectively seen on an x-ray or MRI. They believe that if something hurts, something must be WRONG. They can only confirm that something IS wrong, and not that something ISN'T. And of course there are always the ambulance-chasers in the background, which will make docs even less inclined to tell you to ignore something.
Even if an actual tear can't be seen by imaging etc., they will then conjure up theories about "microtears" that are just laying in wait to get you.
I don't know what to say about swelling - the TMS books claim it can be a symptom but I don't have firsthand experience. All I can say is that anytime I've gotten a pain that I couldn't relate to a physical event, I've always gotten away with pushing through it.
Weatherman
"Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." |
| JohnD |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 16:55:00
How bad is the swelling. I think sometimes one side naturally has more fluid than the other and people are quick to call it swelling. Other times people rub the joint all day long and cause fluid to accumulate a little bit.
You could always try another form of exercise for a few weeks such as biking or swimming. |
| Littlebird |
Posted - 10/23/2007 : 16:21:34
I had swelling in my feet, ankles and legs that was TMS-induced. The swelling that occurs with injury is caused by the body's reaction to the injury, not the injury itself. These reactions are controlled by the autonomic nervous system, including the unconscious brain. So why can't swelling be a TMS symptom? Of course, it can indicate an actual injury and that should be evaluated, but if there doesn't seem to be an injury, the swelling could be TMS. My swelling came and went for months until I learned of TMS, then it suddenly went away and has not returned. |
| skizzik |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 18:23:58
I did'nt think swelling was a TMS syndrome until:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3793&SearchTerms=and+there+it+is |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 15:55:59
Your knee stuff went away and then your ankle starts, even when you shouldn't be getting injured, and doesn't go away even though you rest? Sounds suspicious to me...
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
| Lou |
Posted - 10/22/2007 : 09:26:45
I'm in the same boat... Have inflammation in the Knee but no swelling - also no specific injury... been going on for about a week... Based on what's been going on in my life (hectic x2) It's got to be TMS, but the doubt demons creep in so quickly.... Based on past symptoms, I know it will resolve itself quickly if I don't let it get the better of me...
Good Luck |
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