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| lidge |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 11:43:05
I was wondering whether any of the members who successfully rid themselves of pain through TMS went back to their doctors, orthopedists, etc and told them?
Especially those who were told their pain was from physical findings (herniated discs, arthritis, stenosis - etc.). |
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| altherunner |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 06:09:09
I told my doctor, and gave him a copy of HBP. He keeps a small library in his office, and lends out books on alternative treatments to patients. |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 14:54:39
It's still on my to-do list. I'm sure my doctor would be receptive.
Hilary N |
| shawnsmith |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 13:37:27
Most doctors will humor you by nodding their heads, then push you out the door. I have told a few docs about TMS. I convinced one doc to purchase HPB by Dr. Sarno. She at least found it interesting. She has many patients in pain with no obvious reason and is perplexed. Doctors generally don't like being taught by their patients as it calls into questions their years of medical training. Some, however, don't have such big egos and will admit to their fallibilty.
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Sarno-ize it!
Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." Also chapers 3, 4 and 5 in Dr. Scott Brady's "Pain Free For Life" are very important. |
| AnthonEE |
Posted - 10/17/2007 : 08:45:30
I was introduced to the TMS concept by a physiatrist that I saw for some problems with my arm. He is the reason I found this forum.
Then, independently, I spoke at length with my primary care doctor about all the trouble I've been working through, and without actually using the term TMS, he explained that it is his firm belief that if "the mind is not loose then the body will not be loose". Injury and poor recovery will more easily result. I offered this concept of TMS and while not agreeing word for word with the teaching of Sarno, he thought it was very compatible with his viewpoint on mindbody health. I trust this doctor, and am doubly impressed that he was supportive of these concepts, or at least some reasonable interpretation of them.
And finally, I discussed the ideas of mindbody health with my psychotherapist before I ever heard of Dr Sarno. He too was absolutely convinced of the mindbody connection and offered several titles by Herbert Benson (MD) such as "The Relaxation Response" and "Timeless Healing". These are also very well known mindbody books written by an MD that has been helping people heal their bodies by first healing their minds. So I haven't met with my psychotherapist for over a month now, and we haven't specifically discussed Sarno. But I'm positive he would embrace the ideas. And I'm also positive that the Benson books, like Sarno's, will be very helpful to me (I just bought them). And by the way, my therapist is in his 70's and still running daily, despite having bouts of occasional back pain himself...
So while there is not likely to be a revolution in conventional medicine any time soon, there really are doctors out there that truly embrace this stuff. Many may not be at liberty to embrace it more formally within their profession however. And many will continue to flat out reject it. But there are definitely those that embrace it, and that's encouraging. |
| celloLWF |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 18:50:19
yes, I have gone back to most of the people that helped me and told them and thanked them for their help.
Namely, the doctor that suggested I read it (thank god she told me to, but of course after all the other stuff didn't work) We didn't talk about the books content, as she knew it already, and I felt it would not be pleasant discussion, so we just celebrated the fact I was better after 2 freaking years of nothing...
My first PT, for which I had a crush cause she was beautiful and never gave up on me, and I think the reason she helped me the most of the PTs was due to the psychological effect she had on me. She was open to the idea and said she would check out the book...she mentioned she had heard about it more in the literature lately...
The massage therapist was one who accepted the book's idea, she suspected the doctors were wrong to start, and now she's gonna read the book.
The PT that worked with me for 9 months but did little to help me, I have not talked to her. I think she might not be as accepting, but I find that relationship to be painful anyway.
Man, it's weird how people actually reject this method....and how much I have to censor myself, especially when telling medical practitioners about it.... |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 13:55:38
Yup. I wrote letters to everyone who had treated me, letting them know what finally helped me. (Most of the letters also included a thanks to them for their treatment and support, so they were not combative letters.) The only one that didn't have a nice part was the chiropractor I saw who kept Sarno's books on his shelf but, when I told him I'd read that book and was having success with the method, told me I should keep coming back! I told him no thanks at the time, so that letter probably had an "I-told-you-so" tone. :-)
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
| mizlorinj |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 13:32:07
I told a chiropractor acquaintance who was certain he could help my back pain (pre-Sarno), but after adjustments the pain returned in ~30 mins so I knew that was not the answer. He wanted me to go the steroid injection route and I said no thanks, I found something non-invasive!! He is not a supporter but I DO NOT CARE!!  |
| JohnD |
Posted - 10/16/2007 : 12:27:36
I told my doctor and he was open to it. He went out and read the book and sometimes recommends it to patients that he feels would be open minded enough to consider it.
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