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Trout Posted - 10/11/2007 : 06:48:41
Hi, I am new here and the thoughts expressed here have been very helpful.
I've noticed that many here incorporate thoughts from others along with Dr Sarno. I have my own. There is a book called "A Guide to Rational Living" by Dr Ellis. Boiled down, it essential states that we do harbor anger, anxiety etc, but much of it is way overblown by our subconscious. It's all really not that important.
In Sarno speak that could mean that our subconscious is trying to suppress these terrible thoughts that it has blown way out of proportion. These thoughts may not be so terrible after all. We just have to get our minds to realize this.
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AnthonEE Posted - 10/11/2007 : 13:05:38
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Originally posted by shawnsmith

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Does that make sense or am I babbling?
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I agree too. Seems to me that perception is everything.

I believe TMS would result from the relative perception about the badness of some issue (and its subsequent repression). It cannot result from the absolute goodness or badness of the issue, assuming there even is such a thing. There are too many people that have had terrible awful things happen(ing) to them, and they (non TMS personalities especially) never get TMS. Besides, who says what is really good and what is really bad anyway? Within reason at least, it's relative to our individual perceptions (aka internal conflicts). And on top of that, what we (TMS personalities) perceive is often blown out of proportion and internalized, depending on how it resonates with our past history, sensitivity, personality, etc. We've all experience that I'm sure.

At least that's what I perceive to be the case
Trout Posted - 10/11/2007 : 12:02:53
Oh yes, I agree. We can be our own worst enemies. I guess we need to just keep telling ourselves how senseless some of these thoughts are.
shawnsmith Posted - 10/11/2007 : 11:06:16
Yes, I agree. The anger, anxiety, fear, sorrow and a host of other emotions we repress may be in response to a perception that may be way overblown. But it seems that perception is just as powerful on the psyche as reality.

Does that make sense or am I babbling?

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Sarno-ize it!
Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." Also chapers 3, 4 and 5 in Dr. Scott Brady's "Pain Free For Life" are very important.
mizlorinj Posted - 10/11/2007 : 08:00:21
In all the mind/body books I've read, some referred to here in the forum for which I am grateful, the underlying theme is suppressed anger. The answer in all these books is getting the feelings out. People who suppress anger or any feeling are trying to be kind to others, but they are harming themselves. Studies are showing there are more ailments than TMS can be due to repressed emotions.

Regarding whether these feelings are rational. Well, we are human, and we have feelings. We can't change that. Even if our unconscious/subconscious has them, they are there whether rational or not. Processing the feelings, not suppressing them, as they arise is the key.
-Lori

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