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Baseball65 Posted - 09/04/2007 : 07:04:43

Ya' know.. having a little blip like this has had it's upside;That is of course, coming back here and reading your guys(and gals) posts.

One thing I notice in myself and in the posts here, particularly with people who feel stuck is the METAPHOR that the pain becomes. I read people post that they were getting better and than got stuck. That reminds me of the audio I have running in my own head.
"It must be physical, because I've done everything I can and it's not getting better"

I think that's why Sarno recommends Therapy. There are some things which are so painful and scary (and obvious to everyone except ourselves) that we really need to go and get help. Yet even amongst us, there seems to be a deep desire to NOT be part of the 5%.

I did not initially need therapy to get better. The first time I had my Sarno 'epiphany' it was just me and the book.I had about a year of bliss.
Than I got so angry when I was finally back at work that I feared I would have a physical altercation, so THEN I got help. I got ahold of a good therapist, and things got good again.

The rage abated, but within a few years I was abusing drugs again. After that was gone, my OCD kicked in...and I went and got therapeutic help again; all of that stuff floated downstream.

So here I am again, reading posts,writing, doing the 3 R's. It's really funny watching this thing and I swear some times that having the pain and the ensuing circular thinking fills some sick repressed need for Drama in my life. I am so boring, I Kill me.

I was playing ball this weekend and it came. I must have made a face, because my son with whom I was throwing saw me wince. I began to yell "MYTHOLOGY!" every time I threw the ball. Then, when I went to throw a curveball, the devil in my ear said "That's what messed your arm up , Marc" and the pain was excruciating.

"MYTHOLOGY! LIES! OLD WIVES TALES !"

"Uh... dad? You OK?"

"Sure son.. I'm just having a nice little chat with SATAN over here... How's my curveball breaking?"

"Nice and sharp"

"Cool..... MYTHOLOGY!



So...for what is the pain a metaphor? It's usually good and invisible to the sufferer. Hmmm... I'm 41 years old and I'm a manual laborer working for people I could run mental circles around. I just finished coaching Baseball FOREVER... I have had the same job for the longest stretch ever... I am getting along with my wife (rare)...

Louise Hay gives some good 'tips' in Healing Yourself, and she says Joints represent fear of change and that the right arm represents Manhood... I just had a vasectomy... I wonder if that's it?

Meanwhile, I think I'm going to call my insurance and see how much they cover therapy. I am that guy in the book who has a problem and isn't really afraid of the pain, or disabled but seeming to Enjoy it...that's really messed up. It's like I need it.

-BB65

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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FORU Posted - 09/04/2007 : 16:41:14
I think that's why Sarno recommends Therapy. There are some things which are so painful and scary (and obvious to everyone except ourselves) that we really need to go and get help. Yet even amongst us, there seems to be a deep desire to NOT be part of the 5%.

I did not initially need therapy to get better. The first time I had my Sarno 'epiphany' it was just me and the book.I had about a year of bliss.

Yup! I'm one of those trying desperately to avoid therapy, and to figure it all out on my own. The idea of paying someone to listen to me whine and bitch for - what is it?? 50 minutes?? is just not appealing to me.

Its interesting to read about your ups and downs through the years, though perhaps a wee bit disheartening. There is a part of me still hoping for that magic pill that rids one of pain forever and ever. Your story makes me realize this is a lifetime process!



fka something else
FORU Posted - 09/04/2007 : 15:58:04
BORING people are all those zombies out there, never looking inward, never noticing the patterns and fabric of the mind/body universe. How many of you, after knowing certain people, ask yourselves, "does that person EVER engage in introspection?"

I've worked with those people for 4 looooooooooonggggggggg years now. I've finally stopped asking myself. It has become quite evident. They don't!!!

Interestingly enough - for me at least, was learning today that a coworker was also laid up all weekend with back spasms. Is it possible to have a toxic workplace?


fka something else
Suz Posted - 09/04/2007 : 11:43:35
Hi Baseball,

Nice to hear from you although in this Forum, that means the pain has reared its ugly head again.

Question: I think you mentioned quite openly here that you were in a program for other issues....I am too. The origin of that issue being resentment/rage. I found that when I saw Sarno's therapist 2 years, ago, a great deal of rage came up and this was very hard to deal with as it affected my addiction.
Any thoughts....I am considering going back to the psychologist again but am not sure whether I should take a softer, more spiritual approach. I don't have back pain any more - I have insomnia and anxiety - equivalents. I am tired of dealing with them.
mamaboulet Posted - 09/04/2007 : 07:21:51
Personally, I'm finding you all rather interesting. A bunch of people actually focused on making sense of themselves, and working on a problem that requires guts and creativity and insight.
BORING people are all those zombies out there, never looking inward, never noticing the patterns and fabric of the mind/body universe. How many of you, after knowing certain people, ask yourselves, "does that person EVER engage in introspection?"
Even when many of you talk about no progress, or another round after being pain free, that's progress! Because you are still doing the hard work of sorting yourselves out.
I'm sure there's enough dysfunction here to go around several times, but heck, that's as human as human gets, just like this whole TMS thing is just part of the human condition.

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