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| Mando1 |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 10:35:28
Well i started reading Dr Sarnos book and it says that someone has to diagnose TMS? Who can do that? My Doctor?
Oh and is it possible for the penis to get numb with TMS? And my butt gets numb to, This just started happening. Its never happened before. Could it be that im thinking about getting Cauda Equita Syndrome too much? Oh and sometimes i feel scared how can i not repress that emotion?. |
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| ralphyde |
Posted - 08/29/2007 : 23:20:50
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Unfortunately, if your physician does not consider TMS in the process of generating a differential diagnosis of your symptoms, it is possible that he or she will give an incorrect diagnosis. This occurs all too frequently as a physical cause is mistakenly offered. This results in a treatment plan that is often unsuccessful. As an example, many people with back pain are told that their symptoms are due to a herniated disc or disc degeneration, when in fact these findings are often incidental and normal. This helps to explain why physical therapy, medications, and surgery are often unsuccessful." To Be or Not to Be... Pain Free Dr. Marc Sopher, pp 5-7
Hope this helps. Also, the lawyer in the Sarno 20/20 video was diagnosed with seven herniated discs, but was able to recover rapidly in Dr. Sarno's program.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6660313127569317147
Don't worry about a herniated disc, it's a non-issue.
Ralph |
| Mando1 |
Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:01:32
Thanks. But now that i know about the hernaited disc its hard to not think about it. What can i do? |
| Webdan65 |
Posted - 08/28/2007 : 11:20:25
My take:
If the tests ruled out any major diseases - treat your pain as TMS and see what happens. As Sarno points out - the spine is most often the innocent bystander that gets blamed for the pain.
Dig back into the process with conviction and you should be able to work through it.
Dan |
| Mando1 |
Posted - 08/28/2007 : 10:08:52
i dont know. Ive done so many things that couldve done that. But should i be worried? |
| la_kevin |
Posted - 08/28/2007 : 01:12:11
WHat happened to you to give a 10mm and 7mm herniation?
Just curious. |
| Mando1 |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 22:16:37
I have a question about the penis going numb/getting warm. Can anti-inflamatory medication make it stop? Oh and i got my results back from my MRI. this is what it says:
1. Severe central canal stenosis at l4-5 secondary to a 10.0mm disc herniation and anular tear of the disc with associated mild compression of the traversing L5 and S1 nerve roots bilaterally as discussed above.
2.Mild central canal stenosis at L3-4 secondary to a 7.0 mm broad-based disc herniation.
3.A 2.0mm bulging of disc at L2-3 without central canal or neural foraminial stenosis.
And the doctor gave me a Spinal Surgery booklet.
Is this bad?
when he told me i was dissapointed but then i kept telling myslef that ,that isnt the cause of my pain.. |
| HellNY |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 15:36:51
I have you exact symptoms. No bladder or bowel problems but intermittent numbvness right where you describe the. I have had a spinal surgery, but this started almost a year after my surgery and there was no fall or accident or nothing. My scans are "normal" they say.
I also have a history of other pain disorders (back pain, sciatica, headache, radiating arm pain, buring pains) that predated my surgery. Even further, I recall in my 20s "scrotal numbness" that would come and go.
The bottom line is the symptoms that I have (liek yours) seems to have no clear cause.
What makes me think mine is TMS as well is that the genital thing was what I most feared going wrong as I worried about my spinal surgery. Right after teh surgery everything was fine. More than 9 months later...WELL beytond any surgical trauma or scarring....suddenly the dick goes numb. What are the odd of teh thing I fear the WORST, and being an extremely RARE problem, DOES happen? Sound like a conspiracy to me. And I think thats exactly what it is. |
| Mando1 |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 15:12:18
Thanks for all that information. I feel better now. I will go see my results from the MRI and i will post the results when i come back. Thanks again for the help. Really appreciate it. I was really scared. |
| la_kevin |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 14:19:47
Additionally, people talk about "numb" feelings all the time, when it's not paralysis. If you think a part of you is truly "numb" from damage....pull one of the hairs on your legs out or stick a needle in the upper layer of skin. Then tell me what "numb" is.
And if its not nerve loss or damage, it can only be blood or oxygen loss. And if it's blood or oxygen loss that comes and goes with various rest periods or activities or "time windows", you have something that no medical expert will be able to explain.
Oh wait, that would venture into autonomic abnormalities.......hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. |
| la_kevin |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 14:13:13
Cauda Equina is a very very very rare injury or syndrome.Usually it happens from a severe EXTRUSION of disc material into the nerve bundle below your main cord (Im sure you looked into this by now). If you are having a hard time controlling your urine stream bladder, muscle control and bowels, numbness and paralysis down legs,numbness in your perineum, loss of function or discoloration and swelling of legs, etc. You may have a problem.
When I say "numbness" I don't mean pins and needles or tight feelings, I mean absolute numbness. The main thing about Cauda Equine is FUNCTION. If your bowel, bladder, orgasm, erection functions don't work properly, then you may need further tests. But most people with Cauda Equina know something is terribly wrong, usually after falling or having a big accident, mostly car accidents.
How do I know this?? Well I had pain so bad at one point (exacerbation or TMS flare) where I seriously didn't piss the same for a few days. I would get "numbness" when sitting and all types of feelings in my dick. It totally went away when I slept or took a hot bath at the time (BIG BIG BIG HINT THERE). I panicked about Cauda Equina when my MRI's showed that I didn't even have as much as a bulged disc in my whole back at the time, lol. And I obsessed about back pain so much for years I read and studied enough to have a degree. That's what happens with chronic mysterious pain, you become an expert.
Muscles bro......muscles. Tense muscles can make you feel like you have 8 "discs" herniated and cut off feeling in entire zones of limbs. Remember, a 3% oxygen drop is all you need to have an entire muscle group to halt function, that's for real. So when you have pains and nerve shooting in your groin region, most likeley its from a "postural" muscles group affecting the smaller branching nerves and arteries in your back, hips, or buttocks.
Conclusion:
I really highly doubt you have Cauda Equina. Remember also, most damaged nerves don't feel things like we describe on this board. People with serious spinal problems mostly just lose function, or things go numb completely. When spinal nerves are damaged, they usually dont conduct signals. When they don't conduct signals, you don't get pain. And if they did get "pain" , they wouldn't have certain "time zones" that they just disappear,out of the blue, only to return when you wake up in the morning.You ever gone to bed with a real injury??? It doesn't "take the night off". It will keep you up.
Most of what I've seen with TMS is that sleep halts that pains, then as soon as your eyes awake in the morning, the pain jumps into you like a demon again. That's a surefire way to know that it's psychosomatic.
I wouldn't ruminate too much about Cauda Equina. If you go take a warm bath or something like that, and the "numbness or pains" ease up, you know what it is, and it's a fraud. Like all TMS is, a complete lie and fraud. |
| Mando1 |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 12:44:41
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Originally posted by skizzik
did you get your MRI today as from your other post?
as far as getting those genital symptoms, I'd assume it was after you read about cauda equina. Do you feel had you never read about it you would not have those symptoms?
I had unexplained scrotal pain that took me a month to get checked out. Got all the tests right up to the embarrasing ultra sound. Came out ok. They just put me on anti-biotics that did nothing. I was fully pain free at some point afterwards when my unconcious agreed that it could not be a distraction anymore.
I had rotr cuff surgery years ago too. Prior to getting the shoulder MRI I told him my arm was shaky, and tingly. He had me get a neck MRI. That freaked me out. On the way home I got sharp and dull pain in my neck I never had b4. Sure enuff, 2 weeks of neck suffering later he looked at the MRI in front of me, and said, well, no herniations. Geez, all my pain left instantly. Crazy. The power of the mind.
Mando, what are your issues, stresses, repressions? Can you link your pain to anything your'e going thru lately?
No, I havent i will go get the results at 4:00. Yea i do feel like that. And its weird cuz i only get those symptoms when i walk. But not right away. And when i lie down it goes away. And in the morning i dont get those symptoms at all. Well i worry about having Cauda Equitta Syndrome,thats probably why im gettin these symptoms. . The leg pain went away. Its just kinda numb now. |
| skizzik |
Posted - 08/27/2007 : 12:07:37
did you get your MRI today as from your other post?
as far as getting those genital symptoms, I'd assume it was after you read about cauda equina. Do you feel had you never read about it you would not have those symptoms?
I had unexplained scrotal pain that took me a month to get checked out. Got all the tests right up to the embarrasing ultra sound. Came out ok. They just put me on anti-biotics that did nothing. I was fully pain free at some point afterwards when my unconcious agreed that it could not be a distraction anymore.
I had rotr cuff surgery years ago too. Prior to getting the shoulder MRI I told him my arm was shaky, and tingly. He had me get a neck MRI. That freaked me out. On the way home I got sharp and dull pain in my neck I never had b4. Sure enuff, 2 weeks of neck suffering later he looked at the MRI in front of me, and said, well, no herniations. Geez, all my pain left instantly. Crazy. The power of the mind.
Mando, what are your issues, stresses, repressions? Can you link your pain to anything your'e going thru lately? |
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