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Singer_Artist Posted - 08/19/2007 : 11:00:23
It's been a month I have been dealing with acute pain and limitations in my wrists.. I know other TMSers have dealt with this in the past alot longer... I am doing the Sarno work, but instead of writing, I am constantly thinking about what could be truly bothering me to cause all this...

When the pain gets particularly bad, especially at night, my fingers become visibly swollen... I know Sarno mentions swelling and inflammation as also a part of TMS... I was just wondering if anyone else on here has experienced this finger swelling related to wrist tendonitis?
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Singer_Artist Posted - 08/30/2007 : 17:19:07
You guys are awesome, thanks!
carbar Posted - 08/29/2007 : 21:14:05
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist
GUESS WHAT EVERYONE? I drove myself today for the first time in four weeks! I felt soreness, especially in the right wrist when turning, but I did it anyway!



Way to go! It's all in you, Karen!
mikescott_98 Posted - 08/29/2007 : 06:03:30
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Thanks everyone..I still haven't done much writing because it just increases the pain to unmanagable levels..However, I am constantly thinking psychological now and tears have been flowing alot for me the last few days..I have noticed the more I get in touch with the deep sadness, the better I feel physically..I realize it's a journey for me..


I think that in the future this will be known as "Karen's Turning Point Post"! Just don't back away from digging deeper no matter how upset you get of what you might find. Once the rage is in your conscious mind, it will not be able physically cause TMS.
armchairlinguist Posted - 08/28/2007 : 21:17:45
Now that is the sort of thing we want to hear more of!

You are definitely making progress. You go girl.

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Wherever you go, there you are.
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/28/2007 : 19:07:31
Thanks ACL..

Miehnesor,
I am sure I have alot of both past and present rage.. Anger, in general, scares me even more than sadness..

GUESS WHAT EVERYONE? I drove myself today for the first time in four weeks! I felt soreness, especially in the right wrist when turning, but I did it anyway!
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/28/2007 : 18:53:51
Thanks ACL..

Miehnesor,
I am sure I have alot of both past and present rage.. Anger, in general, scares me even more than sadness..

GUESS WHAT EVERYONE? I drove myself today for the first time in four weeks! I felt soreness, especially in the right wrist when turning, but I did it anyway!
miehnesor Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:59:19
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Originally posted by Singer_Artist

Thanks everyone..I still haven't done much writing because it just increases the pain to unmanagable levels..However, I am constantly thinking psychological now and tears have been flowing alot for me the last few days..I have noticed the more I get in touch with the deep sadness, the better I feel physically..I realize it's a journey for me..



Karen,
This is progress!! Don't stop doing the journaling though because the pain is worse. Get mad and determined that this pain is not going to keep you from your feelings. Also keep in mind that for most its not repressed sadness that does it but repressed rage. The rage is harder to get to; but, when you are feeling the sadness chances are the rage is also being stirred up. You might want to try punching a pillow or something and verbalizing the rage just to see how that goes. Maybe you can breakthrough and push deeper into the feelings. Take chances and experiment with it. Every experience gives you more information and understanding.
armchairlinguist Posted - 08/28/2007 : 13:49:17
Good for you, Karen!

It absolutely is a journey. Hope you continue to see progress.

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Wherever you go, there you are.
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/28/2007 : 13:02:15
Thanks everyone..I still haven't done much writing because it just increases the pain to unmanagable levels..However, I am constantly thinking psychological now and tears have been flowing alot for me the last few days..I have noticed the more I get in touch with the deep sadness, the better I feel physically..I realize it's a journey for me..
mamaboulet Posted - 08/28/2007 : 09:43:53
Just making the first list was a "whoa!" experience for me. I can't imagine how scary deep journaling could get. I'm still just working on simple visualization. I drew a picture of a "person" as represented by a network of blood vessels madly pumping blood to all parts of the body, in red. I first visualized the blood vessel person when I was taking a hot bath and the bath water was running. It reminded me of Fantastic Voyage, with the little miniature ship inside the body.
armchairlinguist Posted - 08/28/2007 : 09:32:50
Remember the Growing Toward Wholeness essay that I linked you to? The author said the same thing, that it seems like a bottomless pit at first, and that it's a lot of stuff to deal with and very painful. It may take a long time. But it's not bottomless. You will eventually come to an end, to a point where all the big stuff really has been processed and integrated. (There's always ongoing work, of course.)

It's NOT pleasant or easy. I have mentioned a few times, if you look at my past posts, that once I got into the emotions I could see why the brain thinks it's easier to have physical pain. And I don't want to be comparative, because it doesn't generally help, but I suspect you have more to deal with than I do, so you may feel that way even more so. But right now you don't really have a better choice, because you can't lead your life in the kind of pain you're in. The physical pain is the true bottomless pit here, since it's false pain and can be constantly generated. If you are able to do emotional work, that is the true pain, so it can be worked through and finished.

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Wherever you go, there you are.
Webdan65 Posted - 08/28/2007 : 06:25:09
That's the thing about the deep journaling. It can bring up all sorts of bad memories and can be quite depressing. This is why Sarno says some people would rather have the physical pain than deal with the emotional pain that is buried.

I know after a few weeks it was a struggle for me to continue journaling consistently. Sometimes I just didn't want to keep thinking about the bad stuff.

Singer_Artist Posted - 08/27/2007 : 23:59:24
I am, ACL, and it seems like a bottomless pit..
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/27/2007 : 23:56:30
I am, ACL..and it's not easy..
armchairlinguist Posted - 08/27/2007 : 19:55:19
Karen, it seems clear at this point that the problem is that awareness is just not enough. You need to do something, such as dig deeper emotionally, and/or take definite steps with the TMS work. Hopefully at this point you are.

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Wherever you go, there you are.
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/27/2007 : 11:09:54
That's interesting, Dave..Off hand I cannot think of anything that could be upsetting me that I'm not aware of..I've been "stuck in awareness" for a long time..
Dave Posted - 08/27/2007 : 08:10:50
The things that cause TMS are often the things that you either don't even realize are bothering you, or know about but say to yourself "no, I don't think it's that..."
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/26/2007 : 11:24:26
Hi Dave,
Understood..I often wonder about the long term effects of the physical abuse I dealt with as a child..I thought I dealt with most of it in therapy years ago..But, who knows..
Dave Posted - 08/26/2007 : 10:03:48
It is one thing to be afraid of driving. This is certainly understandable and reasonable after a car accident.

It's another thing to use it as a reason to apply the "PTSD" label to yourself and seek treatment. It's no different than someone with total body pain being diagnosed with fibromyalgia, or foot pain with plantar fascitis, or one of my favorite new pseudo-diagnoses: restless legs syndrome. These labels serve to give more life to the symptoms, when we really should be ignoring them.

I'm not saying PTSD is not a legitimate diagnosis for some. I can't imagine what kind of long term damage childhood abuse or severe trauma could cause.

But in the context of TMS, structural (or in this case, psychiatric) diagnoses can only serve to magnify and perpetuate the distraction.
Singer_Artist Posted - 08/26/2007 : 07:16:51
Hi Miche,
Wow that sounds like a bad one.. Glad you recovered fully.. My problem is that I've had 3 car accidents, all since I moved here to Vegas, a little over a decade ago.. The entire time I lived in NJ I never had a single accident.. People drive like total crap in this town.. Too many people, with different driving styles from all over the World.. I have a friend who never even had 1 accident, and she is afraid driving here..
God bless,
Karen

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